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Robin BC in the 1D wave equation
Wave Equation Partial Differential EquationLaplace transform of the square wave to solve PDESolution of wave equationGreen Solution to Laplace Equation with Robin Boundary ConditionsHelmholtz equation on unit disk with angular Robin boundary conditionHow to solve a PDE with boundary condition of $u_x=A$?How to solve wave equation with Robin boundary condition?Solving semi-infinite wave equation.Finding the correct expression for a square-wave wavefunction with time dependenceSolve PDE using method of characteristics with non-local boundary conditions.
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The problem of interest is as follows:
- the quantity of interest: $u(x,t)$
- the wave equation: $partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0$ where $c>0$
- one Robin boundary condition at $x=0$: $partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)$ where $alpha>0$
- since the Robin condition is seen as a boundary condition, the domain of interest is $(x,t)in [0,infty[times mathbbR$.
Developments are available, see section 2.2.3. Still, it looks to me that the way the Robin boundary condition should be tackled is not clear. So, let's see what can be done. From d'Alembert's solution, we know that:
$$u(x,t)=f(x+ct)+g(ct-x)$$
where $f$ is the backward wave and $g$ is the forward wave. Inserting the Robin BC in the above solution yields:
$$f'(xi)-g'(xi)=alpha (f(xi)+g(xi))$$
which can be read as an ODE in $g$ for instance [Note that using $g(x-ct)$ as in d'Alembert's solution instead of $g(ct-x)$ generates difficulties for Robin BC]. This allows to express $g$ in terms of $f$. Expressing $f$ in terms of $g$ is also possible. The solution is:
- homogeneous solution: $g_texth(xi)=Amathrme^-alphaxi$
- particular solution: $g_textp(xi)=f(xi)-mathrme^-alphaxibigl(f(0)+2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsbigr)$
In the homogeneous solution, $A=g(0)$ has been chosen. However, any other value of $g$ is eligible. The final solution is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (1)$$
which leads to:
$$colorgreenu(x,t)=colorbluef(ct+x)+colorredf(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (2)$$
The above solution is animated below with the assumption that $g(0)=f(0)=0$. What is of interest to us is the green solution on the positive axis $x>0$: it shows how an incident function (the blue function) gets distorted by the Robin BC (the red curve).
In (1) and (2), we can notice that even for an identically zero incident wave ($f=0$), the "spurious" exponential term $g(0)mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still exists in the solution when $g(0)neq 0$. This invites us to think that $g(0)=0$.
To summarize, an unbounded wave $mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)(g(0)-f(0))$ emerges in the solution as soon as $g(0)neq f(0)$, and this is very strange. Accordingly, the question is: is there an issue in the above developments? There are good physical reasons to think that $g(0)=f(0)$ but no clear mathematical evidence at this point.
boundary-value-problem wave-equation
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The problem of interest is as follows:
- the quantity of interest: $u(x,t)$
- the wave equation: $partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0$ where $c>0$
- one Robin boundary condition at $x=0$: $partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)$ where $alpha>0$
- since the Robin condition is seen as a boundary condition, the domain of interest is $(x,t)in [0,infty[times mathbbR$.
Developments are available, see section 2.2.3. Still, it looks to me that the way the Robin boundary condition should be tackled is not clear. So, let's see what can be done. From d'Alembert's solution, we know that:
$$u(x,t)=f(x+ct)+g(ct-x)$$
where $f$ is the backward wave and $g$ is the forward wave. Inserting the Robin BC in the above solution yields:
$$f'(xi)-g'(xi)=alpha (f(xi)+g(xi))$$
which can be read as an ODE in $g$ for instance [Note that using $g(x-ct)$ as in d'Alembert's solution instead of $g(ct-x)$ generates difficulties for Robin BC]. This allows to express $g$ in terms of $f$. Expressing $f$ in terms of $g$ is also possible. The solution is:
- homogeneous solution: $g_texth(xi)=Amathrme^-alphaxi$
- particular solution: $g_textp(xi)=f(xi)-mathrme^-alphaxibigl(f(0)+2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsbigr)$
In the homogeneous solution, $A=g(0)$ has been chosen. However, any other value of $g$ is eligible. The final solution is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (1)$$
which leads to:
$$colorgreenu(x,t)=colorbluef(ct+x)+colorredf(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (2)$$
The above solution is animated below with the assumption that $g(0)=f(0)=0$. What is of interest to us is the green solution on the positive axis $x>0$: it shows how an incident function (the blue function) gets distorted by the Robin BC (the red curve).
In (1) and (2), we can notice that even for an identically zero incident wave ($f=0$), the "spurious" exponential term $g(0)mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still exists in the solution when $g(0)neq 0$. This invites us to think that $g(0)=0$.
To summarize, an unbounded wave $mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)(g(0)-f(0))$ emerges in the solution as soon as $g(0)neq f(0)$, and this is very strange. Accordingly, the question is: is there an issue in the above developments? There are good physical reasons to think that $g(0)=f(0)$ but no clear mathematical evidence at this point.
boundary-value-problem wave-equation
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1
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Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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– anderstood
Mar 21 at 13:28
1
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@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
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– Daniele Tampieri
Mar 23 at 17:37
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The problem of interest is as follows:
- the quantity of interest: $u(x,t)$
- the wave equation: $partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0$ where $c>0$
- one Robin boundary condition at $x=0$: $partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)$ where $alpha>0$
- since the Robin condition is seen as a boundary condition, the domain of interest is $(x,t)in [0,infty[times mathbbR$.
Developments are available, see section 2.2.3. Still, it looks to me that the way the Robin boundary condition should be tackled is not clear. So, let's see what can be done. From d'Alembert's solution, we know that:
$$u(x,t)=f(x+ct)+g(ct-x)$$
where $f$ is the backward wave and $g$ is the forward wave. Inserting the Robin BC in the above solution yields:
$$f'(xi)-g'(xi)=alpha (f(xi)+g(xi))$$
which can be read as an ODE in $g$ for instance [Note that using $g(x-ct)$ as in d'Alembert's solution instead of $g(ct-x)$ generates difficulties for Robin BC]. This allows to express $g$ in terms of $f$. Expressing $f$ in terms of $g$ is also possible. The solution is:
- homogeneous solution: $g_texth(xi)=Amathrme^-alphaxi$
- particular solution: $g_textp(xi)=f(xi)-mathrme^-alphaxibigl(f(0)+2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsbigr)$
In the homogeneous solution, $A=g(0)$ has been chosen. However, any other value of $g$ is eligible. The final solution is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (1)$$
which leads to:
$$colorgreenu(x,t)=colorbluef(ct+x)+colorredf(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (2)$$
The above solution is animated below with the assumption that $g(0)=f(0)=0$. What is of interest to us is the green solution on the positive axis $x>0$: it shows how an incident function (the blue function) gets distorted by the Robin BC (the red curve).
In (1) and (2), we can notice that even for an identically zero incident wave ($f=0$), the "spurious" exponential term $g(0)mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still exists in the solution when $g(0)neq 0$. This invites us to think that $g(0)=0$.
To summarize, an unbounded wave $mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)(g(0)-f(0))$ emerges in the solution as soon as $g(0)neq f(0)$, and this is very strange. Accordingly, the question is: is there an issue in the above developments? There are good physical reasons to think that $g(0)=f(0)$ but no clear mathematical evidence at this point.
boundary-value-problem wave-equation
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The problem of interest is as follows:
- the quantity of interest: $u(x,t)$
- the wave equation: $partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0$ where $c>0$
- one Robin boundary condition at $x=0$: $partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)$ where $alpha>0$
- since the Robin condition is seen as a boundary condition, the domain of interest is $(x,t)in [0,infty[times mathbbR$.
Developments are available, see section 2.2.3. Still, it looks to me that the way the Robin boundary condition should be tackled is not clear. So, let's see what can be done. From d'Alembert's solution, we know that:
$$u(x,t)=f(x+ct)+g(ct-x)$$
where $f$ is the backward wave and $g$ is the forward wave. Inserting the Robin BC in the above solution yields:
$$f'(xi)-g'(xi)=alpha (f(xi)+g(xi))$$
which can be read as an ODE in $g$ for instance [Note that using $g(x-ct)$ as in d'Alembert's solution instead of $g(ct-x)$ generates difficulties for Robin BC]. This allows to express $g$ in terms of $f$. Expressing $f$ in terms of $g$ is also possible. The solution is:
- homogeneous solution: $g_texth(xi)=Amathrme^-alphaxi$
- particular solution: $g_textp(xi)=f(xi)-mathrme^-alphaxibigl(f(0)+2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsbigr)$
In the homogeneous solution, $A=g(0)$ has been chosen. However, any other value of $g$ is eligible. The final solution is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (1)$$
which leads to:
$$colorgreenu(x,t)=colorbluef(ct+x)+colorredf(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(g(0)-f(0)-2alphaint_0^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)qquad (2)$$
The above solution is animated below with the assumption that $g(0)=f(0)=0$. What is of interest to us is the green solution on the positive axis $x>0$: it shows how an incident function (the blue function) gets distorted by the Robin BC (the red curve).
In (1) and (2), we can notice that even for an identically zero incident wave ($f=0$), the "spurious" exponential term $g(0)mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still exists in the solution when $g(0)neq 0$. This invites us to think that $g(0)=0$.
To summarize, an unbounded wave $mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)(g(0)-f(0))$ emerges in the solution as soon as $g(0)neq f(0)$, and this is very strange. Accordingly, the question is: is there an issue in the above developments? There are good physical reasons to think that $g(0)=f(0)$ but no clear mathematical evidence at this point.
boundary-value-problem wave-equation
boundary-value-problem wave-equation
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Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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– anderstood
Mar 21 at 13:28
1
$begingroup$
@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
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– Daniele Tampieri
Mar 23 at 17:37
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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– anderstood
Mar 21 at 13:28
1
$begingroup$
@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
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– Daniele Tampieri
Mar 23 at 17:37
1
1
$begingroup$
Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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– anderstood
Mar 21 at 13:28
$begingroup$
Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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– anderstood
Mar 21 at 13:28
1
1
$begingroup$
@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
$endgroup$
– Daniele Tampieri
Mar 23 at 17:37
$begingroup$
@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
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– Daniele Tampieri
Mar 23 at 17:37
add a comment |
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Let us simplify a bit the provided solution and extend the domain of integration from $(0,x)$ to $(-infty,x)$ which is more appropriate. The final solution to the ODE induced by the boundary condition is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
where $A$ is the constant of integration, which leads to
$$u(x,t)=f(ct+x)+f(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
We notice that for a vanishing incident wave $f=0$, the term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still participates in the solution. Uniqueness of $u$ is not guaranteed. This invites us to have a look at the original problem when initial conditions are considered. The problem is now:
$$
beginaligned
&partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0\
&partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)\
&u(x,0)=u_0(x)quadtextandquad partial_2u(x,0)=v_0(x)
endaligned
$$
where $u_0(x)$ and $v_0(x)$ are given. Basic developments [2] show that
$$
beginaligned
2f(x)&=u_0(x)+frac1cint_-infty^x v_0(s)mathrmds-B\
2g(x)&=u_0(-x)-frac1cint_-infty^-x v_0(s)mathrmds+B\
endaligned
$$
where $B$ is a constant.
Vanishing initial conditions, ie $u_0(x)=v_0(x)=0$, imply that $g$ is the constant function which in turn implies $A=0$. Since $A$ does not depend on the initial conditions, it always vanishes when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem. Uniqueness of $u$ is now guaranteed.
Let us summarize:
- The term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is the homogeneous solution to the Robin boundary condition of the 1D wave problem.
- This term vanishes ($A=0$) when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem.
- Other boundary conditions (if the domain of interest has finite length) will most likely imply $A=0$.
- In the method of images, it is fair to assume that $A=0$ since $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is, in a way, a mathematical artifact, as explained above.
- In other words, this term is not observable.
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Let us simplify a bit the provided solution and extend the domain of integration from $(0,x)$ to $(-infty,x)$ which is more appropriate. The final solution to the ODE induced by the boundary condition is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
where $A$ is the constant of integration, which leads to
$$u(x,t)=f(ct+x)+f(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
We notice that for a vanishing incident wave $f=0$, the term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still participates in the solution. Uniqueness of $u$ is not guaranteed. This invites us to have a look at the original problem when initial conditions are considered. The problem is now:
$$
beginaligned
&partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0\
&partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)\
&u(x,0)=u_0(x)quadtextandquad partial_2u(x,0)=v_0(x)
endaligned
$$
where $u_0(x)$ and $v_0(x)$ are given. Basic developments [2] show that
$$
beginaligned
2f(x)&=u_0(x)+frac1cint_-infty^x v_0(s)mathrmds-B\
2g(x)&=u_0(-x)-frac1cint_-infty^-x v_0(s)mathrmds+B\
endaligned
$$
where $B$ is a constant.
Vanishing initial conditions, ie $u_0(x)=v_0(x)=0$, imply that $g$ is the constant function which in turn implies $A=0$. Since $A$ does not depend on the initial conditions, it always vanishes when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem. Uniqueness of $u$ is now guaranteed.
Let us summarize:
- The term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is the homogeneous solution to the Robin boundary condition of the 1D wave problem.
- This term vanishes ($A=0$) when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem.
- Other boundary conditions (if the domain of interest has finite length) will most likely imply $A=0$.
- In the method of images, it is fair to assume that $A=0$ since $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is, in a way, a mathematical artifact, as explained above.
- In other words, this term is not observable.
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$begingroup$
Let us simplify a bit the provided solution and extend the domain of integration from $(0,x)$ to $(-infty,x)$ which is more appropriate. The final solution to the ODE induced by the boundary condition is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
where $A$ is the constant of integration, which leads to
$$u(x,t)=f(ct+x)+f(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
We notice that for a vanishing incident wave $f=0$, the term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still participates in the solution. Uniqueness of $u$ is not guaranteed. This invites us to have a look at the original problem when initial conditions are considered. The problem is now:
$$
beginaligned
&partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0\
&partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)\
&u(x,0)=u_0(x)quadtextandquad partial_2u(x,0)=v_0(x)
endaligned
$$
where $u_0(x)$ and $v_0(x)$ are given. Basic developments [2] show that
$$
beginaligned
2f(x)&=u_0(x)+frac1cint_-infty^x v_0(s)mathrmds-B\
2g(x)&=u_0(-x)-frac1cint_-infty^-x v_0(s)mathrmds+B\
endaligned
$$
where $B$ is a constant.
Vanishing initial conditions, ie $u_0(x)=v_0(x)=0$, imply that $g$ is the constant function which in turn implies $A=0$. Since $A$ does not depend on the initial conditions, it always vanishes when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem. Uniqueness of $u$ is now guaranteed.
Let us summarize:
- The term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is the homogeneous solution to the Robin boundary condition of the 1D wave problem.
- This term vanishes ($A=0$) when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem.
- Other boundary conditions (if the domain of interest has finite length) will most likely imply $A=0$.
- In the method of images, it is fair to assume that $A=0$ since $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is, in a way, a mathematical artifact, as explained above.
- In other words, this term is not observable.
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Let us simplify a bit the provided solution and extend the domain of integration from $(0,x)$ to $(-infty,x)$ which is more appropriate. The final solution to the ODE induced by the boundary condition is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
where $A$ is the constant of integration, which leads to
$$u(x,t)=f(ct+x)+f(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
We notice that for a vanishing incident wave $f=0$, the term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still participates in the solution. Uniqueness of $u$ is not guaranteed. This invites us to have a look at the original problem when initial conditions are considered. The problem is now:
$$
beginaligned
&partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0\
&partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)\
&u(x,0)=u_0(x)quadtextandquad partial_2u(x,0)=v_0(x)
endaligned
$$
where $u_0(x)$ and $v_0(x)$ are given. Basic developments [2] show that
$$
beginaligned
2f(x)&=u_0(x)+frac1cint_-infty^x v_0(s)mathrmds-B\
2g(x)&=u_0(-x)-frac1cint_-infty^-x v_0(s)mathrmds+B\
endaligned
$$
where $B$ is a constant.
Vanishing initial conditions, ie $u_0(x)=v_0(x)=0$, imply that $g$ is the constant function which in turn implies $A=0$. Since $A$ does not depend on the initial conditions, it always vanishes when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem. Uniqueness of $u$ is now guaranteed.
Let us summarize:
- The term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is the homogeneous solution to the Robin boundary condition of the 1D wave problem.
- This term vanishes ($A=0$) when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem.
- Other boundary conditions (if the domain of interest has finite length) will most likely imply $A=0$.
- In the method of images, it is fair to assume that $A=0$ since $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is, in a way, a mathematical artifact, as explained above.
- In other words, this term is not observable.
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Let us simplify a bit the provided solution and extend the domain of integration from $(0,x)$ to $(-infty,x)$ which is more appropriate. The final solution to the ODE induced by the boundary condition is thus
$$g(xi)=f(xi)+mathrme^-alphaxiBigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^xi mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
where $A$ is the constant of integration, which leads to
$$u(x,t)=f(ct+x)+f(ct-x)+mathrme^-alpha(ct-x)Bigl(A-2alphaint_-infty^ct-x mathrme^alpha sf(s)mathrmdsBigr)$$
We notice that for a vanishing incident wave $f=0$, the term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ still participates in the solution. Uniqueness of $u$ is not guaranteed. This invites us to have a look at the original problem when initial conditions are considered. The problem is now:
$$
beginaligned
&partial_2^2u(x,t)-c^2partial_1^2u(x,t)=0\
&partial_1u(0,t)=alpha u(0,t)\
&u(x,0)=u_0(x)quadtextandquad partial_2u(x,0)=v_0(x)
endaligned
$$
where $u_0(x)$ and $v_0(x)$ are given. Basic developments [2] show that
$$
beginaligned
2f(x)&=u_0(x)+frac1cint_-infty^x v_0(s)mathrmds-B\
2g(x)&=u_0(-x)-frac1cint_-infty^-x v_0(s)mathrmds+B\
endaligned
$$
where $B$ is a constant.
Vanishing initial conditions, ie $u_0(x)=v_0(x)=0$, imply that $g$ is the constant function which in turn implies $A=0$. Since $A$ does not depend on the initial conditions, it always vanishes when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem. Uniqueness of $u$ is now guaranteed.
Let us summarize:
- The term $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is the homogeneous solution to the Robin boundary condition of the 1D wave problem.
- This term vanishes ($A=0$) when the problem is read as an Initial Value Problem.
- Other boundary conditions (if the domain of interest has finite length) will most likely imply $A=0$.
- In the method of images, it is fair to assume that $A=0$ since $Amathrme^-alpha(ct-x)$ is, in a way, a mathematical artifact, as explained above.
- In other words, this term is not observable.
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Have you tried expressing the solutions in terms of the initial conditions? No matter the value of $g(0)-f(0)$, you have a solution of your problem... but if you impose initial conditions, it should determine a unique value for $g(0)-f(0)$ (I presume).
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@pluton, to be precise, the boundary condition you are considering, strictly speaking, is not the standard Robin condition: this has the following form $$left[partial_x u(x,t)+alpha u(x,t)right]_x=0=0 iff partial_x u(0,t)=colorred-alpha u(0,t).$$ In this form, the condition $alpha>0$ implies existence and uniqueness of a solution for the associated equation. Your development clearly shows why it is so (even for elliptic problems): $alpha<0$ probably implies some "explosive behavior" which is to be analyzed carefully, as you did for your question.
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– Daniele Tampieri
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