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If/When UK leaves the EU, can a future goverment conduct a referendum to join the EU?
Do TTIP and CETA ratification in The Netherlands require primary legislation that can be subject to a consultative referendum?Are there examples of when Parliament decided against the results of a Referendum?Protecting a democracy from an influential fewCould a democratic removal of the British monarchy ever be practically implemented?Can the Tweede Kamer or anyone else withdraw a law if an advisory referendum on it has already been requested?Can the UK realistically back out of Brexit?When can a UK referendum result be officially declared “invalid”?Could a post-no-deal-Brexit UK urgently join EFTA and access the ESM that way?What would be the subject of a second Brexit Referendum?Could the UK Parliament defy the delay on the meaningful vote and simply vote on it?
I wonder if after the current debate, the UK ends up leaving the EU on any terms, how soon can a future government conduct a referendum to join the EU?
united-kingdom brexit referendum
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I wonder if after the current debate, the UK ends up leaving the EU on any terms, how soon can a future government conduct a referendum to join the EU?
united-kingdom brexit referendum
asked Mar 29 at 7:49
MocasMocas
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Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14
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I wonder if after the current debate, the UK ends up leaving the EU on any terms, how soon can a future government conduct a referendum to join the EU?
united-kingdom brexit referendum
asked Mar 29 at 7:49
MocasMocas
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I wonder if after the current debate, the UK ends up leaving the EU on any terms, how soon can a future government conduct a referendum to join the EU?
united-kingdom brexit referendum
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Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14
add a comment |
8
Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14
8
8
Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14
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They can do it right away if they have the majority vote. However, it will take some time to do so, even if the UK gets fast-tracked. It may help that most standards, laws etc are already in place. Also the UK may not get conditions of membership as good as when they had before leaving, and may be required to participate in the Schengen visa scheme and the Eurozone.
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
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answered Mar 29 at 7:56
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In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
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Both major parties have put in their 2017 election platforms leaving the EU. So I guess it would take at least a general election and new platforms for them to do that while saving face. (Despite Labour's recent flip flops on the matter of a 2nd referendum.)
As for practical terms: as soon as the government would be confident a poll will give them the result they want.
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
add a comment |
Since the distinction has become relevant of late, a future government can’t hold a referendum. It needs legislation, which only Parliament can do. A future government can propose legislation for a new referendum to Parliament, and if it has a majority than of course the legislation is highly likely to pass. And that makes it clear that there’s no way this can be prevented from happening, since a fundamental principle of the British constitution is that Parliament cannot bind future Parliaments.
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
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They can do it right away if they have the majority vote. However, it will take some time to do so, even if the UK gets fast-tracked. It may help that most standards, laws etc are already in place. Also the UK may not get conditions of membership as good as when they had before leaving, and may be required to participate in the Schengen visa scheme and the Eurozone.
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
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answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
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In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
|
show 5 more comments
They can do it right away if they have the majority vote. However, it will take some time to do so, even if the UK gets fast-tracked. It may help that most standards, laws etc are already in place. Also the UK may not get conditions of membership as good as when they had before leaving, and may be required to participate in the Schengen visa scheme and the Eurozone.
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
3,18011119
23
In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
|
show 5 more comments
They can do it right away if they have the majority vote. However, it will take some time to do so, even if the UK gets fast-tracked. It may help that most standards, laws etc are already in place. Also the UK may not get conditions of membership as good as when they had before leaving, and may be required to participate in the Schengen visa scheme and the Eurozone.
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
3,18011119
They can do it right away if they have the majority vote. However, it will take some time to do so, even if the UK gets fast-tracked. It may help that most standards, laws etc are already in place. Also the UK may not get conditions of membership as good as when they had before leaving, and may be required to participate in the Schengen visa scheme and the Eurozone.
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
3,18011119
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
edited Mar 29 at 20:31
James K
36k8107155
36k8107155
answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
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answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
3,18011119
answered Mar 29 at 7:56
liftarnliftarn
3,18011119
3,18011119
23
In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
|
show 5 more comments
23
In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
23
23
In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
In particular it seems to be likely that the EU would expect the UK to play by the same rules as other new members -- which includes that it would need to commit to joining the Eurozone and the Schengen area. That would probably not be popular with the UK electorate, even if they now seem to be (weakly) minded to remain if possible.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 29 at 11:22
1
1
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
@HenningMakholm Yeah, if the EU insisted on that, I'd guess the odds of the UK agreeing to it would be somewhere around zero. I can't imagine they're particularly eager to join the Eurozone after seeing all of the sovereign debt crises over the last several years.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 16:05
4
4
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@HenningMakholm Joining the Eurozone is in fact optional: No country must actually get the €. See e.g. Poland and Sweden.
– Martin Schröder
Mar 30 at 0:33
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
@MartinSchröder: They're officially obliged to join when they meet the "convergence criteria", though it is apparently not difficult to intentionally avoid meeting them. But even that level of obligation could probably be poisonous in the UK political climate.
– Henning Makholm
Mar 30 at 0:49
3
3
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
Czech Republic and Poland haven't joined the Euro after 15 years of membership. Romania and Bulgaria haven't joined the Schengen area after 12 years. The rule only exists on paper.
– JonathanReez
Mar 30 at 5:56
|
show 5 more comments
Both major parties have put in their 2017 election platforms leaving the EU. So I guess it would take at least a general election and new platforms for them to do that while saving face. (Despite Labour's recent flip flops on the matter of a 2nd referendum.)
As for practical terms: as soon as the government would be confident a poll will give them the result they want.
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
add a comment |
Both major parties have put in their 2017 election platforms leaving the EU. So I guess it would take at least a general election and new platforms for them to do that while saving face. (Despite Labour's recent flip flops on the matter of a 2nd referendum.)
As for practical terms: as soon as the government would be confident a poll will give them the result they want.
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
add a comment |
Both major parties have put in their 2017 election platforms leaving the EU. So I guess it would take at least a general election and new platforms for them to do that while saving face. (Despite Labour's recent flip flops on the matter of a 2nd referendum.)
As for practical terms: as soon as the government would be confident a poll will give them the result they want.
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
Both major parties have put in their 2017 election platforms leaving the EU. So I guess it would take at least a general election and new platforms for them to do that while saving face. (Despite Labour's recent flip flops on the matter of a 2nd referendum.)
As for practical terms: as soon as the government would be confident a poll will give them the result they want.
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
answered Mar 29 at 7:58
FizzFizz
13.8k23287
13.8k23287
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
add a comment |
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
Once the UK has left, a manifesto commitment to leave has been fulfilled. Their manifestoes say nothing about not rejoining.
– Mike Scott
Mar 29 at 13:14
7
7
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
This tells us nothing about public opinion, just that both parties are opportunist.
– Sean Houlihane
Mar 29 at 14:04
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
@SeanHoulihane True, but the question didn't ask about public opinion.
– reirab
Mar 29 at 15:59
add a comment |
Since the distinction has become relevant of late, a future government can’t hold a referendum. It needs legislation, which only Parliament can do. A future government can propose legislation for a new referendum to Parliament, and if it has a majority than of course the legislation is highly likely to pass. And that makes it clear that there’s no way this can be prevented from happening, since a fundamental principle of the British constitution is that Parliament cannot bind future Parliaments.
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
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Since the distinction has become relevant of late, a future government can’t hold a referendum. It needs legislation, which only Parliament can do. A future government can propose legislation for a new referendum to Parliament, and if it has a majority than of course the legislation is highly likely to pass. And that makes it clear that there’s no way this can be prevented from happening, since a fundamental principle of the British constitution is that Parliament cannot bind future Parliaments.
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Mike ScottMike Scott
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There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
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Since the distinction has become relevant of late, a future government can’t hold a referendum. It needs legislation, which only Parliament can do. A future government can propose legislation for a new referendum to Parliament, and if it has a majority than of course the legislation is highly likely to pass. And that makes it clear that there’s no way this can be prevented from happening, since a fundamental principle of the British constitution is that Parliament cannot bind future Parliaments.
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
Since the distinction has become relevant of late, a future government can’t hold a referendum. It needs legislation, which only Parliament can do. A future government can propose legislation for a new referendum to Parliament, and if it has a majority than of course the legislation is highly likely to pass. And that makes it clear that there’s no way this can be prevented from happening, since a fundamental principle of the British constitution is that Parliament cannot bind future Parliaments.
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
answered Mar 29 at 20:10
Mike ScottMike Scott
1,05647
1,05647
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
add a comment |
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
There’s a small yet important caveat to this - which is that the convention is that ‘no parliament can irrevocably bind future parliaments’ in practice every parliament binds and lays obligations on future parliaments, in the form of treaties, contracts, trade deals etc. The distinguishing factor is that these are not irrevocably binding and cannot be made so. This is largely due to the sovereign nature of parliament.
– HomoTechsual
Mar 30 at 9:13
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Doing a referendum to join the EU is something completely distinct from actually joining the EU. A referendum is just asking some people what they think about some idea (and is in no way required to join the EU AFAIK) - any rules or laws that may impact this would be specific to the UK and unrelated to the EU (of course it wouldn't make much sense to hold a referendum if they're unable to do the thing they're asking about, but that doesn't mean they can't ask either way). Actually joining the EU would depend mostly on the rules of the EU, but there may also be some laws in the UK about this.
– NotThatGuy
Mar 29 at 10:50
It is my understanding that in UK, the Parliament reigns supreme. The Parliament can vote now to cancel Brexit, or rejoin EU after Brexit, notwithstanding the existence or the outcome of any referendum. But that will likely to be a career suicide for MPs, so they won't vote so.
– Siyuan Ren
Mar 30 at 6:14