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Divergence of a sequence with floors and square roots



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Analyze the convergence or divergence of the following sequenceProving divergence of quotient sequenceSequence with convergent subsequences: divergent or convergent?sequence defined by $u_0=1/2$ and the recurrence relation $u_n+1=1-u_n^2$Confused about series and testing for convergence/divergence?complex subsequences of divergent sequencerelationship between convergence of a sequence and its corresponding series.If the sequence $lefta_nright$ has no two subsequence converging to two different limits then the sequence has a limit?Prove that $(-1)^n - n$ is divergent to $-infty$Find a divergent sequence whose distance lessens with each subsequent term










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Is there any specific approach to prove the divergence of a sequence? For example, I have this problem:



"Prove that the sequence $(a_n)_n ge 1$, where $a_n = nsqrt2 - [nsqrt2]
+ nsqrt3 -[nsqrt3]$
is divergent"



(the [ ] stands for the floor function )



I tried to solve it by finding to subsequences that have different limits, but it does not seem to work this way.










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    Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 13:59










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    I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:26










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    You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
    $endgroup$
    – AlgorithmsX
    Apr 1 at 14:36











  • $begingroup$
    I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 15:39















1












$begingroup$


Is there any specific approach to prove the divergence of a sequence? For example, I have this problem:



"Prove that the sequence $(a_n)_n ge 1$, where $a_n = nsqrt2 - [nsqrt2]
+ nsqrt3 -[nsqrt3]$
is divergent"



(the [ ] stands for the floor function )



I tried to solve it by finding to subsequences that have different limits, but it does not seem to work this way.










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 13:59










  • $begingroup$
    I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:26










  • $begingroup$
    You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
    $endgroup$
    – AlgorithmsX
    Apr 1 at 14:36











  • $begingroup$
    I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 15:39













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1



$begingroup$


Is there any specific approach to prove the divergence of a sequence? For example, I have this problem:



"Prove that the sequence $(a_n)_n ge 1$, where $a_n = nsqrt2 - [nsqrt2]
+ nsqrt3 -[nsqrt3]$
is divergent"



(the [ ] stands for the floor function )



I tried to solve it by finding to subsequences that have different limits, but it does not seem to work this way.










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$




Is there any specific approach to prove the divergence of a sequence? For example, I have this problem:



"Prove that the sequence $(a_n)_n ge 1$, where $a_n = nsqrt2 - [nsqrt2]
+ nsqrt3 -[nsqrt3]$
is divergent"



(the [ ] stands for the floor function )



I tried to solve it by finding to subsequences that have different limits, but it does not seem to work this way.







real-analysis sequences-and-series convergence divergence






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  • $begingroup$
    Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 13:59










  • $begingroup$
    I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:26










  • $begingroup$
    You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
    $endgroup$
    – AlgorithmsX
    Apr 1 at 14:36











  • $begingroup$
    I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 15:39
















  • $begingroup$
    Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 13:59










  • $begingroup$
    I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:26










  • $begingroup$
    You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
    $endgroup$
    – AlgorithmsX
    Apr 1 at 14:36











  • $begingroup$
    I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
    $endgroup$
    – Ddang
    Apr 1 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Apr 1 at 15:39















$begingroup$
Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Apr 1 at 13:59




$begingroup$
Do you know that $ n sqrt2 pmod1 $ is dense in $[0,1]$?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Apr 1 at 13:59












$begingroup$
I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
$endgroup$
– Ddang
Apr 1 at 14:26




$begingroup$
I did not know that. But still I cannot solve the problem (using your fact), neither prove what you said.
$endgroup$
– Ddang
Apr 1 at 14:26












$begingroup$
You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
$endgroup$
– AlgorithmsX
Apr 1 at 14:36





$begingroup$
You should try to prove that, for any constant $cin(0,1)$, there exist an infinite number of values of $n$ such that $nsqrt2-lfloornsqrt2rfloor>c$ or equivalently $nsqrt2 (bmod 1)$ is dense in $[0, 1]$. Since you have a sum consisting of an infinite number of terms greater than some constant, the sum diverges.
$endgroup$
– AlgorithmsX
Apr 1 at 14:36













$begingroup$
I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
$endgroup$
– Ddang
Apr 1 at 14:56




$begingroup$
I tried but I still cannot prove it this way. If you find a solution, will you please post it?
$endgroup$
– Ddang
Apr 1 at 14:56












$begingroup$
math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Apr 1 at 15:39




$begingroup$
math.stackexchange.com/a/189402/12042
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Apr 1 at 15:39










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