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inequality $(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2$



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Simple inequality problemelementary inequality proofUsing Bernoulli's Inequality to prove an inequalityInequality on exponents of positive numbersSquaring both sides of an inequalityInequality solvingTriangle lengths inequalityIf $ a,b,c$ are in descending order of magnitude how to prove $(fraca+ca-c)^a <(fracb+cb-c)^b$Solving Radical InequalitiesProving using Bernoulli inequality










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$$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2$$ given $a,b,c,d$ are positive and unequal.



starting from LHS



since AM of mth power > mth power of AM



$$(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^3$$



multiplying both sides by $(a+b+c+d)$



$$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^3)$$



$implies$
$$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a+b+c+d)^4/16$$



now taking expression on the RHS and using AM of mth power > mth power of AM



$$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^2$$



squaring both sides



$$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2/16 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^4)$$



$$implies (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2 > ((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



Now I have proved that both LHS and RHS are greater than $$((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



still unable to prove LHS > RHS. Please help with this.










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    I am trying to prove the inequality:



    $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2$$ given $a,b,c,d$ are positive and unequal.



    starting from LHS



    since AM of mth power > mth power of AM



    $$(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^3$$



    multiplying both sides by $(a+b+c+d)$



    $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^3)$$



    $implies$
    $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a+b+c+d)^4/16$$



    now taking expression on the RHS and using AM of mth power > mth power of AM



    $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^2$$



    squaring both sides



    $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2/16 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^4)$$



    $$implies (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2 > ((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



    Now I have proved that both LHS and RHS are greater than $$((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



    still unable to prove LHS > RHS. Please help with this.










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      I am trying to prove the inequality:



      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2$$ given $a,b,c,d$ are positive and unequal.



      starting from LHS



      since AM of mth power > mth power of AM



      $$(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^3$$



      multiplying both sides by $(a+b+c+d)$



      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^3)$$



      $implies$
      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a+b+c+d)^4/16$$



      now taking expression on the RHS and using AM of mth power > mth power of AM



      $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^2$$



      squaring both sides



      $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2/16 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^4)$$



      $$implies (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2 > ((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



      Now I have proved that both LHS and RHS are greater than $$((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



      still unable to prove LHS > RHS. Please help with this.










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      I am trying to prove the inequality:



      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2$$ given $a,b,c,d$ are positive and unequal.



      starting from LHS



      since AM of mth power > mth power of AM



      $$(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^3$$



      multiplying both sides by $(a+b+c+d)$



      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3)/4 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^3)$$



      $implies$
      $$(a+b+c+d)(a^3+b^3+c^3+d^3) > (a+b+c+d)^4/16$$



      now taking expression on the RHS and using AM of mth power > mth power of AM



      $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)/4 > ((a+b+c+d)/4)^2$$



      squaring both sides



      $$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2/16 > (a+b+c+d)^4/(4^4)$$



      $$implies (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)^2 > ((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



      Now I have proved that both LHS and RHS are greater than $$((a+b+c+d)^4)/16$$



      still unable to prove LHS > RHS. Please help with this.







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          Hint: You will get the left-hand side minus the right-hand side:
          $$a^3b+a^3c+a^3d-2,a^2b^2-2,a^2c^2-2,a^
          2d^2+ab^3+ac^3+ad^3+b^3c+b^3d-2,b^2c^
          2-2,b^2d^2+bc^3+bd^3+c^3d-2,c^2d^2+cd
          ^3
          $$
          Now you need to combine like terms:
          $$a^3b-2a^2b^2+ab^2=ab(a^2-2ab+b^2)$$ and so on.






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          Hint: You will get the left-hand side minus the right-hand side:
          $$a^3b+a^3c+a^3d-2,a^2b^2-2,a^2c^2-2,a^
          2d^2+ab^3+ac^3+ad^3+b^3c+b^3d-2,b^2c^
          2-2,b^2d^2+bc^3+bd^3+c^3d-2,c^2d^2+cd
          ^3
          $$
          Now you need to combine like terms:
          $$a^3b-2a^2b^2+ab^2=ab(a^2-2ab+b^2)$$ and so on.






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          $begingroup$

          Hint: You will get the left-hand side minus the right-hand side:
          $$a^3b+a^3c+a^3d-2,a^2b^2-2,a^2c^2-2,a^
          2d^2+ab^3+ac^3+ad^3+b^3c+b^3d-2,b^2c^
          2-2,b^2d^2+bc^3+bd^3+c^3d-2,c^2d^2+cd
          ^3
          $$
          Now you need to combine like terms:
          $$a^3b-2a^2b^2+ab^2=ab(a^2-2ab+b^2)$$ and so on.






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          Hint: You will get the left-hand side minus the right-hand side:
          $$a^3b+a^3c+a^3d-2,a^2b^2-2,a^2c^2-2,a^
          2d^2+ab^3+ac^3+ad^3+b^3c+b^3d-2,b^2c^
          2-2,b^2d^2+bc^3+bd^3+c^3d-2,c^2d^2+cd
          ^3
          $$
          Now you need to combine like terms:
          $$a^3b-2a^2b^2+ab^2=ab(a^2-2ab+b^2)$$ and so on.






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          Hint: You will get the left-hand side minus the right-hand side:
          $$a^3b+a^3c+a^3d-2,a^2b^2-2,a^2c^2-2,a^
          2d^2+ab^3+ac^3+ad^3+b^3c+b^3d-2,b^2c^
          2-2,b^2d^2+bc^3+bd^3+c^3d-2,c^2d^2+cd
          ^3
          $$
          Now you need to combine like terms:
          $$a^3b-2a^2b^2+ab^2=ab(a^2-2ab+b^2)$$ and so on.







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