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Doubt regarding the projection along new basis



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InIs the perpendicular vector in a projection part of the nullspace?find the projection of a vector on a line using the projection formulaProjection of $V$ onto $U$ along $T$ ?How to find the projection of something onto V?How Can I find the coordinates of a point, if I know its projection vector?Finding the projection of a 3D vector along the direction of (i-j)Compute the angle between two vectors if two equations are knownI need to find the projection of a vector onto the plane perpendicular to some other vector.Solve for length of vector so its sum with another vector has a given lengthIs there a formula for coefficients of a given vector written in terms of the basis?










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I am trying to solve the following problem.
As per my understanding, the scalar projection of $vecp$ along $vecb1$ should be




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$|



Then why do we divide by |$vecb1$| twice? To get the correct answer we need to use the following formula instead, but why:




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$||$vecb1$|



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    You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
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$begingroup$


I am trying to solve the following problem.
As per my understanding, the scalar projection of $vecp$ along $vecb1$ should be




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$|



Then why do we divide by |$vecb1$| twice? To get the correct answer we need to use the following formula instead, but why:




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$||$vecb1$|



enter image description here










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
    $endgroup$
    – jgon
    Mar 30 at 18:07













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$begingroup$


I am trying to solve the following problem.
As per my understanding, the scalar projection of $vecp$ along $vecb1$ should be




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$|



Then why do we divide by |$vecb1$| twice? To get the correct answer we need to use the following formula instead, but why:




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$||$vecb1$|



enter image description here










share|cite|improve this question









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I am trying to solve the following problem.
As per my understanding, the scalar projection of $vecp$ along $vecb1$ should be




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$|



Then why do we divide by |$vecb1$| twice? To get the correct answer we need to use the following formula instead, but why:




$vecp$ . $vecb1$ / |$vecb1$||$vecb1$|



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  • $begingroup$
    You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
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  • $begingroup$
    You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
    $endgroup$
    – jgon
    Mar 30 at 18:07















$begingroup$
You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
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– jgon
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You are correct about the formula for the scalar projection, but the scalar projection is different from the coordinate.
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Rather than using the formula above, I would say:



$v = c_1 b_1 + c_2 b_2\
c_1 + c_2 = 5\
c_1 - c_2 = -1$



And now I have a rather simple system of equations.



At a deeper level of understanding, I might say:



$T = beginbmatrix 1 & 1 \ 1 & -1endbmatrix$ would be a transformation from the basis $B$ to the standard basis.



In which chase $T^-1v$ would transform v in the standard basis to the basis $B.$



As for what you have in your formula above.



We take $b_1$ and we normalize it.



i.e. $u_1 = frac b_1$



Then we calculate the dot product.



$vcdot u_1$ giving us a magnitude in this direction. Multiply by the direction vector



$(vcdot u_1) u_1$



Substituting back



$(vcdot u_1) u_1$ = $(vcdot frac b_1) frac b_1 = frac vcdot b_1b_1$






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    $begingroup$

    Rather than using the formula above, I would say:



    $v = c_1 b_1 + c_2 b_2\
    c_1 + c_2 = 5\
    c_1 - c_2 = -1$



    And now I have a rather simple system of equations.



    At a deeper level of understanding, I might say:



    $T = beginbmatrix 1 & 1 \ 1 & -1endbmatrix$ would be a transformation from the basis $B$ to the standard basis.



    In which chase $T^-1v$ would transform v in the standard basis to the basis $B.$



    As for what you have in your formula above.



    We take $b_1$ and we normalize it.



    i.e. $u_1 = frac b_1$



    Then we calculate the dot product.



    $vcdot u_1$ giving us a magnitude in this direction. Multiply by the direction vector



    $(vcdot u_1) u_1$



    Substituting back



    $(vcdot u_1) u_1$ = $(vcdot frac b_1) frac b_1 = frac vcdot b_1b_1$






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      $begingroup$

      Rather than using the formula above, I would say:



      $v = c_1 b_1 + c_2 b_2\
      c_1 + c_2 = 5\
      c_1 - c_2 = -1$



      And now I have a rather simple system of equations.



      At a deeper level of understanding, I might say:



      $T = beginbmatrix 1 & 1 \ 1 & -1endbmatrix$ would be a transformation from the basis $B$ to the standard basis.



      In which chase $T^-1v$ would transform v in the standard basis to the basis $B.$



      As for what you have in your formula above.



      We take $b_1$ and we normalize it.



      i.e. $u_1 = frac b_1$



      Then we calculate the dot product.



      $vcdot u_1$ giving us a magnitude in this direction. Multiply by the direction vector



      $(vcdot u_1) u_1$



      Substituting back



      $(vcdot u_1) u_1$ = $(vcdot frac b_1) frac b_1 = frac vcdot b_1b_1$






      share|cite|improve this answer









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        $begingroup$

        Rather than using the formula above, I would say:



        $v = c_1 b_1 + c_2 b_2\
        c_1 + c_2 = 5\
        c_1 - c_2 = -1$



        And now I have a rather simple system of equations.



        At a deeper level of understanding, I might say:



        $T = beginbmatrix 1 & 1 \ 1 & -1endbmatrix$ would be a transformation from the basis $B$ to the standard basis.



        In which chase $T^-1v$ would transform v in the standard basis to the basis $B.$



        As for what you have in your formula above.



        We take $b_1$ and we normalize it.



        i.e. $u_1 = frac b_1$



        Then we calculate the dot product.



        $vcdot u_1$ giving us a magnitude in this direction. Multiply by the direction vector



        $(vcdot u_1) u_1$



        Substituting back



        $(vcdot u_1) u_1$ = $(vcdot frac b_1) frac b_1 = frac vcdot b_1b_1$






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        Rather than using the formula above, I would say:



        $v = c_1 b_1 + c_2 b_2\
        c_1 + c_2 = 5\
        c_1 - c_2 = -1$



        And now I have a rather simple system of equations.



        At a deeper level of understanding, I might say:



        $T = beginbmatrix 1 & 1 \ 1 & -1endbmatrix$ would be a transformation from the basis $B$ to the standard basis.



        In which chase $T^-1v$ would transform v in the standard basis to the basis $B.$



        As for what you have in your formula above.



        We take $b_1$ and we normalize it.



        i.e. $u_1 = frac b_1$



        Then we calculate the dot product.



        $vcdot u_1$ giving us a magnitude in this direction. Multiply by the direction vector



        $(vcdot u_1) u_1$



        Substituting back



        $(vcdot u_1) u_1$ = $(vcdot frac b_1) frac b_1 = frac vcdot b_1b_1$







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