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Find all values of $c$ for the Mean Value Theorem's $f'(c)$ of the function $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ of the range $[-5, 8]$



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I need to find all values of $c$ for the $f'(c)$ of the function $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ of the range $[-5, 8]$ such that $f'(c) = -10$. I have already found that $f'(c) = frac-13013=-10$.



I thought I could find the values of $c$ by differentiating $f(x)$ which becomes $6x^2-12x-90$, and applying the Mean Value Theorem $f'(c) = fracf(b)-f(a)b - a$ again.



$f(b) = 6(-5)^2-12(-5)-90 = 150+60-90 = 120$



$f(a) = 6(8)^2-12(8)-90 = 384-186 = 198$



$f'(c) = frac120-198-5-8 = frac7813 = 6$



Then I took $6x^2-12x-90$ again, replaced $x$ with $c$, and set it equal to $6$ before solving for $c$.



$6c^2-12c-90 = 6 to 6(c^2-2c-16) = 0$



$frac2 pm sqrt2^2-4(1)(-17)2(1) = frac2 pm sqrt742$ or $c = frac2 - sqrt742, frac2 + sqrt742$



But this answer is wrong.



How can I find the values for $c$ here?










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    Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
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    @rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
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I need to find all values of $c$ for the $f'(c)$ of the function $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ of the range $[-5, 8]$ such that $f'(c) = -10$. I have already found that $f'(c) = frac-13013=-10$.



I thought I could find the values of $c$ by differentiating $f(x)$ which becomes $6x^2-12x-90$, and applying the Mean Value Theorem $f'(c) = fracf(b)-f(a)b - a$ again.



$f(b) = 6(-5)^2-12(-5)-90 = 150+60-90 = 120$



$f(a) = 6(8)^2-12(8)-90 = 384-186 = 198$



$f'(c) = frac120-198-5-8 = frac7813 = 6$



Then I took $6x^2-12x-90$ again, replaced $x$ with $c$, and set it equal to $6$ before solving for $c$.



$6c^2-12c-90 = 6 to 6(c^2-2c-16) = 0$



$frac2 pm sqrt2^2-4(1)(-17)2(1) = frac2 pm sqrt742$ or $c = frac2 - sqrt742, frac2 + sqrt742$



But this answer is wrong.



How can I find the values for $c$ here?










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    Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
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    – rogerl
    Mar 31 at 22:18











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    You evaluated $f'(b)$, not $f(b)$ (and same for $a$)
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    @rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
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    Mar 31 at 22:21







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    $in$ means "is contained in" (the interval)
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I need to find all values of $c$ for the $f'(c)$ of the function $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ of the range $[-5, 8]$ such that $f'(c) = -10$. I have already found that $f'(c) = frac-13013=-10$.



I thought I could find the values of $c$ by differentiating $f(x)$ which becomes $6x^2-12x-90$, and applying the Mean Value Theorem $f'(c) = fracf(b)-f(a)b - a$ again.



$f(b) = 6(-5)^2-12(-5)-90 = 150+60-90 = 120$



$f(a) = 6(8)^2-12(8)-90 = 384-186 = 198$



$f'(c) = frac120-198-5-8 = frac7813 = 6$



Then I took $6x^2-12x-90$ again, replaced $x$ with $c$, and set it equal to $6$ before solving for $c$.



$6c^2-12c-90 = 6 to 6(c^2-2c-16) = 0$



$frac2 pm sqrt2^2-4(1)(-17)2(1) = frac2 pm sqrt742$ or $c = frac2 - sqrt742, frac2 + sqrt742$



But this answer is wrong.



How can I find the values for $c$ here?










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I need to find all values of $c$ for the $f'(c)$ of the function $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ of the range $[-5, 8]$ such that $f'(c) = -10$. I have already found that $f'(c) = frac-13013=-10$.



I thought I could find the values of $c$ by differentiating $f(x)$ which becomes $6x^2-12x-90$, and applying the Mean Value Theorem $f'(c) = fracf(b)-f(a)b - a$ again.



$f(b) = 6(-5)^2-12(-5)-90 = 150+60-90 = 120$



$f(a) = 6(8)^2-12(8)-90 = 384-186 = 198$



$f'(c) = frac120-198-5-8 = frac7813 = 6$



Then I took $6x^2-12x-90$ again, replaced $x$ with $c$, and set it equal to $6$ before solving for $c$.



$6c^2-12c-90 = 6 to 6(c^2-2c-16) = 0$



$frac2 pm sqrt2^2-4(1)(-17)2(1) = frac2 pm sqrt742$ or $c = frac2 - sqrt742, frac2 + sqrt742$



But this answer is wrong.



How can I find the values for $c$ here?







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    Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
    $endgroup$
    – rogerl
    Mar 31 at 22:18











  • $begingroup$
    You evaluated $f'(b)$, not $f(b)$ (and same for $a$)
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Mar 31 at 22:20










  • $begingroup$
    @rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
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    – LuminousNutria
    Mar 31 at 22:21







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    $begingroup$
    $in$ means "is contained in" (the interval)
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Mar 31 at 22:22












  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
    $endgroup$
    – rogerl
    Mar 31 at 22:18











  • $begingroup$
    You evaluated $f'(b)$, not $f(b)$ (and same for $a$)
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Mar 31 at 22:20










  • $begingroup$
    @rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
    $endgroup$
    – LuminousNutria
    Mar 31 at 22:21







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    $in$ means "is contained in" (the interval)
    $endgroup$
    – J. W. Tanner
    Mar 31 at 22:22







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$begingroup$
Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
$endgroup$
– rogerl
Mar 31 at 22:18





$begingroup$
Are you trying to find all $cin [-5,8]$ such that $f'(c) = fracf(8)-f(-5)8-(-5)$? Your question is not clear.
$endgroup$
– rogerl
Mar 31 at 22:18













$begingroup$
You evaluated $f'(b)$, not $f(b)$ (and same for $a$)
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Mar 31 at 22:20




$begingroup$
You evaluated $f'(b)$, not $f(b)$ (and same for $a$)
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Mar 31 at 22:20












$begingroup$
@rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
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– LuminousNutria
Mar 31 at 22:21





$begingroup$
@rogerl I don't understand your math symbol $epsilon$ (I only know it's name). I have applied the Mean Value Theorem to $f(x) = 2x^3-6x^2-90x+6$ to find out $f'(c) = frac-13013$ now I need to find all values of $c$ such that $f'(c) = frac-13013$
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You are overcomplicating things; there is no need to apply the mean value theorem to $f'$.



To find all values of $cin[-5,8]$ for which $f'(c)=-10$ you indeed want to first compute $f'$. You correctly found that
$$f'(c)=6c^2-12c-90,$$
and setting this equal to $-10$ yields
$$6c^2-12c-90=-10.$$
This is a quadratic equation in $c$, which you can solve yourself, judging from your attempted solution.



Caution: The quadratic equation above has (at most) two solutions. Make sure to check whether the solutions are in fact in the interval $[-5,8]$.






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    You got the wrong answer because you set $f'(c)=fracf'(b)-f'(a)b-a$ instead of $fracf(b)-f(a)b-a.$



    Otherwise your approach was correct.






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      You are overcomplicating things; there is no need to apply the mean value theorem to $f'$.



      To find all values of $cin[-5,8]$ for which $f'(c)=-10$ you indeed want to first compute $f'$. You correctly found that
      $$f'(c)=6c^2-12c-90,$$
      and setting this equal to $-10$ yields
      $$6c^2-12c-90=-10.$$
      This is a quadratic equation in $c$, which you can solve yourself, judging from your attempted solution.



      Caution: The quadratic equation above has (at most) two solutions. Make sure to check whether the solutions are in fact in the interval $[-5,8]$.






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        You are overcomplicating things; there is no need to apply the mean value theorem to $f'$.



        To find all values of $cin[-5,8]$ for which $f'(c)=-10$ you indeed want to first compute $f'$. You correctly found that
        $$f'(c)=6c^2-12c-90,$$
        and setting this equal to $-10$ yields
        $$6c^2-12c-90=-10.$$
        This is a quadratic equation in $c$, which you can solve yourself, judging from your attempted solution.



        Caution: The quadratic equation above has (at most) two solutions. Make sure to check whether the solutions are in fact in the interval $[-5,8]$.






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          You are overcomplicating things; there is no need to apply the mean value theorem to $f'$.



          To find all values of $cin[-5,8]$ for which $f'(c)=-10$ you indeed want to first compute $f'$. You correctly found that
          $$f'(c)=6c^2-12c-90,$$
          and setting this equal to $-10$ yields
          $$6c^2-12c-90=-10.$$
          This is a quadratic equation in $c$, which you can solve yourself, judging from your attempted solution.



          Caution: The quadratic equation above has (at most) two solutions. Make sure to check whether the solutions are in fact in the interval $[-5,8]$.






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          You are overcomplicating things; there is no need to apply the mean value theorem to $f'$.



          To find all values of $cin[-5,8]$ for which $f'(c)=-10$ you indeed want to first compute $f'$. You correctly found that
          $$f'(c)=6c^2-12c-90,$$
          and setting this equal to $-10$ yields
          $$6c^2-12c-90=-10.$$
          This is a quadratic equation in $c$, which you can solve yourself, judging from your attempted solution.



          Caution: The quadratic equation above has (at most) two solutions. Make sure to check whether the solutions are in fact in the interval $[-5,8]$.







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              You got the wrong answer because you set $f'(c)=fracf'(b)-f'(a)b-a$ instead of $fracf(b)-f(a)b-a.$



              Otherwise your approach was correct.






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                You got the wrong answer because you set $f'(c)=fracf'(b)-f'(a)b-a$ instead of $fracf(b)-f(a)b-a.$



                Otherwise your approach was correct.






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                  Otherwise your approach was correct.






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                  Otherwise your approach was correct.







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