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Analysis of limit on summation of probability



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)A contradiction when calculating the expected value of a discrete random variableProblem on exchangeable eventsAlmost sure convergence of a sum of truncated dependent variablesStrong law of large numbers using Fatou's lemma?Is the expectation value a function of the probability distributionQuestion on exchanging probability with limitProbability question with a hard to find limit as its answer.Use of law of total expectation without checking integrabilityHow do we calculate the expected value of $X^-1$, where $X$ has geometric distribution?A limit of expected value of binomial function










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This question relates to proving a random variable N on $(mathbfOmega ,mathfrakF,mathbbP)$ which has image 0,1,2,... has expectation $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ if the sum exists.



So far my proof is as follows, let $f$ and $F$ be the probability mass function and cumulative distribution function respectively.



The expectation of N is
$$beginalignsum_k=left 0,1,2,... right kmathbbP(N=k)
&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kmathbbP(N=k)
\&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kf(k)
\&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n k[F(k)-F(k-1)] text (k=0 term is 0)endalign$$

The sum simplifies to: $$beginalign
lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n (F(n)-F(k-1))
&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n mathbbP(k-1<N<n)
\&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n mathbbP(k<N<n)endalign$$



My question is as follows: in my final line, does the nature of the analysis of the sum allow me to take the limit within it so it becomes $sum_k=0^infty lim_nrightarrow inftymathbbP(k<N<n)$, which is indeed $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ the required result? Or is there a more approproate alternative route that I can take?










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    $begingroup$


    This question relates to proving a random variable N on $(mathbfOmega ,mathfrakF,mathbbP)$ which has image 0,1,2,... has expectation $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ if the sum exists.



    So far my proof is as follows, let $f$ and $F$ be the probability mass function and cumulative distribution function respectively.



    The expectation of N is
    $$beginalignsum_k=left 0,1,2,... right kmathbbP(N=k)
    &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kmathbbP(N=k)
    \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kf(k)
    \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n k[F(k)-F(k-1)] text (k=0 term is 0)endalign$$

    The sum simplifies to: $$beginalign
    lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n (F(n)-F(k-1))
    &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n mathbbP(k-1<N<n)
    \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n mathbbP(k<N<n)endalign$$



    My question is as follows: in my final line, does the nature of the analysis of the sum allow me to take the limit within it so it becomes $sum_k=0^infty lim_nrightarrow inftymathbbP(k<N<n)$, which is indeed $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ the required result? Or is there a more approproate alternative route that I can take?










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      $begingroup$


      This question relates to proving a random variable N on $(mathbfOmega ,mathfrakF,mathbbP)$ which has image 0,1,2,... has expectation $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ if the sum exists.



      So far my proof is as follows, let $f$ and $F$ be the probability mass function and cumulative distribution function respectively.



      The expectation of N is
      $$beginalignsum_k=left 0,1,2,... right kmathbbP(N=k)
      &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kmathbbP(N=k)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kf(k)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n k[F(k)-F(k-1)] text (k=0 term is 0)endalign$$

      The sum simplifies to: $$beginalign
      lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n (F(n)-F(k-1))
      &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n mathbbP(k-1<N<n)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n mathbbP(k<N<n)endalign$$



      My question is as follows: in my final line, does the nature of the analysis of the sum allow me to take the limit within it so it becomes $sum_k=0^infty lim_nrightarrow inftymathbbP(k<N<n)$, which is indeed $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ the required result? Or is there a more approproate alternative route that I can take?










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      This question relates to proving a random variable N on $(mathbfOmega ,mathfrakF,mathbbP)$ which has image 0,1,2,... has expectation $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ if the sum exists.



      So far my proof is as follows, let $f$ and $F$ be the probability mass function and cumulative distribution function respectively.



      The expectation of N is
      $$beginalignsum_k=left 0,1,2,... right kmathbbP(N=k)
      &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kmathbbP(N=k)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n kf(k)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n k[F(k)-F(k-1)] text (k=0 term is 0)endalign$$

      The sum simplifies to: $$beginalign
      lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n (F(n)-F(k-1))
      &=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=1^n mathbbP(k-1<N<n)
      \&=lim_nrightarrow inftysum_k=0^n mathbbP(k<N<n)endalign$$



      My question is as follows: in my final line, does the nature of the analysis of the sum allow me to take the limit within it so it becomes $sum_k=0^infty lim_nrightarrow inftymathbbP(k<N<n)$, which is indeed $sum_k=0^infty mathbbP(N> k)$ the required result? Or is there a more approproate alternative route that I can take?







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          Yes, it is legitimate to take the limit inside. You can apply Monotone Convergence Theorem noting that $I_k leq nI_N<n$ is non-negative and increasing.






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