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Expected Value question about married couples



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Arranging CouplesExpected number of married couples chosen out of 50 different peopleDividing 4 married couples into pairsBasic Probability Question Calculating Possible Team CombinationsWhat is the probability that no wife will be on the same team as her husband? that exactly $k$ teams are composed of married couples?Expected value of the number of teamsExpectation and Variance - Married CouplesIn question of ten married couples to be seated at five different tables, why do we not care about the other tables?Probability with 5 couplesExpected Value of number of teams with married couples










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A group of 36 people, consisting of 18 married couples, are put into random teams of three for a scavenger hunt. In particular, let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_36$ be the people, and assume that for each $iin[1..18]$, the pair $(a_2i-1,a_2i)$ is a married couple. An event organizer randomly permutes the people, and then for each $kin[1..12]$ assigns the people in positions $3k-2$, $3k-1$, and $3k$ to Team $k$. How many of the teams should we expect to contain married couples?



Am I in the right track with the following :



Let $A_i$ be the probability that a given team has a married couple. $P(A_i)$ = $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$



So we can think of $A_i$ = 1 if team has a married couple and $A_i$ = 0 if the team doesn't have a married couple.



So we can find the expected value of A if we find the expected values of $A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$.



Since we know the probability that a team has a married couple is $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$, would the expected number of teams with married couples be :



E[A] = E[$A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$] = 18 x $(A_i)$ or (18) x $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$










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    Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
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    – lulu
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    Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
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    – Ertxiem
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    @lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
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    Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
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    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:26






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    Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:32















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$begingroup$


A group of 36 people, consisting of 18 married couples, are put into random teams of three for a scavenger hunt. In particular, let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_36$ be the people, and assume that for each $iin[1..18]$, the pair $(a_2i-1,a_2i)$ is a married couple. An event organizer randomly permutes the people, and then for each $kin[1..12]$ assigns the people in positions $3k-2$, $3k-1$, and $3k$ to Team $k$. How many of the teams should we expect to contain married couples?



Am I in the right track with the following :



Let $A_i$ be the probability that a given team has a married couple. $P(A_i)$ = $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$



So we can think of $A_i$ = 1 if team has a married couple and $A_i$ = 0 if the team doesn't have a married couple.



So we can find the expected value of A if we find the expected values of $A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$.



Since we know the probability that a team has a married couple is $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$, would the expected number of teams with married couples be :



E[A] = E[$A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$] = 18 x $(A_i)$ or (18) x $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$










share|cite|improve this question











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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 1:04










  • $begingroup$
    Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
    $endgroup$
    – Ertxiem
    Apr 1 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    @lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
    $endgroup$
    – Robin
    Apr 1 at 2:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:26






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:32













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1





$begingroup$


A group of 36 people, consisting of 18 married couples, are put into random teams of three for a scavenger hunt. In particular, let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_36$ be the people, and assume that for each $iin[1..18]$, the pair $(a_2i-1,a_2i)$ is a married couple. An event organizer randomly permutes the people, and then for each $kin[1..12]$ assigns the people in positions $3k-2$, $3k-1$, and $3k$ to Team $k$. How many of the teams should we expect to contain married couples?



Am I in the right track with the following :



Let $A_i$ be the probability that a given team has a married couple. $P(A_i)$ = $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$



So we can think of $A_i$ = 1 if team has a married couple and $A_i$ = 0 if the team doesn't have a married couple.



So we can find the expected value of A if we find the expected values of $A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$.



Since we know the probability that a team has a married couple is $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$, would the expected number of teams with married couples be :



E[A] = E[$A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$] = 18 x $(A_i)$ or (18) x $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$










share|cite|improve this question











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A group of 36 people, consisting of 18 married couples, are put into random teams of three for a scavenger hunt. In particular, let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_36$ be the people, and assume that for each $iin[1..18]$, the pair $(a_2i-1,a_2i)$ is a married couple. An event organizer randomly permutes the people, and then for each $kin[1..12]$ assigns the people in positions $3k-2$, $3k-1$, and $3k$ to Team $k$. How many of the teams should we expect to contain married couples?



Am I in the right track with the following :



Let $A_i$ be the probability that a given team has a married couple. $P(A_i)$ = $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$



So we can think of $A_i$ = 1 if team has a married couple and $A_i$ = 0 if the team doesn't have a married couple.



So we can find the expected value of A if we find the expected values of $A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$.



Since we know the probability that a team has a married couple is $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$, would the expected number of teams with married couples be :



E[A] = E[$A_1$ + $A_2$ + ....$A_18$] = 18 x $(A_i)$ or (18) x $(18times 34)$/$36choose3$







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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 1:04










  • $begingroup$
    Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
    $endgroup$
    – Ertxiem
    Apr 1 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    @lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
    $endgroup$
    – Robin
    Apr 1 at 2:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:26






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:32












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 1:04










  • $begingroup$
    Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
    $endgroup$
    – Ertxiem
    Apr 1 at 1:09










  • $begingroup$
    @lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
    $endgroup$
    – Robin
    Apr 1 at 2:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:26






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Apr 1 at 9:32







1




1




$begingroup$
Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 1:04




$begingroup$
Well...what's the probability that a randomly selected triple has no couples?
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 1:04












$begingroup$
Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
$endgroup$
– Ertxiem
Apr 1 at 1:09




$begingroup$
Suggestion: Try first to study a simpler problem with 6 persons and 2 teams. And then, 12 persons and 4 teams. Is there a pattern?
$endgroup$
– Ertxiem
Apr 1 at 1:09












$begingroup$
@lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
$endgroup$
– Robin
Apr 1 at 2:00





$begingroup$
@lulu would it be 1 - ($(18times 34)$/$36choose3$)?
$endgroup$
– Robin
Apr 1 at 2:00





1




1




$begingroup$
Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 9:26




$begingroup$
Yes, it would! So then you know the probability that a randomly selected triple does contain a married couple. And once you know that linearity tells you...
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 9:26




1




1




$begingroup$
Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 9:32




$begingroup$
Note: Your expression, while correct, is unnecessarily complicated. Having chosen one person, the next does not make a couple with probability $frac 3435$. Then, conditioned on that, the third also fails to make a couple with probability $frac 3234$. Hence the answer is the product $frac 3435times frac 3234$. As I say, that's the same as what you wrote, but maybe it's easier to work with.
$endgroup$
– lulu
Apr 1 at 9:32










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