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Eigenvalues of a real orthogonal matrix.



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Let $A$ be a real orthogonal matrix. Then $A^text T A = I.$ Let $lambda in Bbb C$ be an eigenvalue of $A$ corresponding to the eigenvector $X in Bbb C^n.$ Then we have





$$beginalign* X^text T A^text T A X = X^text T X. \ implies (AX)^text T AX & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda X)^text T lambda X & = X^text T X. \ implies lambda^2 X^text T X & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda^2 - 1) X^text T X & = 0. endalign*$$





Since $X$ is an eigenvector $X neq 0.$ Therefore $_2^2 = X^text T X neq 0.$ Hence we must have $lambda^2 - 1 = 0$ i.e. $lambda^2 = 1.$ So $lambda = pm 1.$



So according to my argument above it follows that eigenvalues of a real orthogonal matrix are $pm 1.$ But I think that I am wrong as I know that the eigenvalues of an orthogonal matrix are unit modulus i.e. they lie on the unit circle.



What's going wrong in my argument above. Please help me in this regard.



Thank you very much for your valuable time.










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    Let $A$ be a real orthogonal matrix. Then $A^text T A = I.$ Let $lambda in Bbb C$ be an eigenvalue of $A$ corresponding to the eigenvector $X in Bbb C^n.$ Then we have





    $$beginalign* X^text T A^text T A X = X^text T X. \ implies (AX)^text T AX & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda X)^text T lambda X & = X^text T X. \ implies lambda^2 X^text T X & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda^2 - 1) X^text T X & = 0. endalign*$$





    Since $X$ is an eigenvector $X neq 0.$ Therefore $_2^2 = X^text T X neq 0.$ Hence we must have $lambda^2 - 1 = 0$ i.e. $lambda^2 = 1.$ So $lambda = pm 1.$



    So according to my argument above it follows that eigenvalues of a real orthogonal matrix are $pm 1.$ But I think that I am wrong as I know that the eigenvalues of an orthogonal matrix are unit modulus i.e. they lie on the unit circle.



    What's going wrong in my argument above. Please help me in this regard.



    Thank you very much for your valuable time.










    share|cite|improve this question











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      $begingroup$


      Let $A$ be a real orthogonal matrix. Then $A^text T A = I.$ Let $lambda in Bbb C$ be an eigenvalue of $A$ corresponding to the eigenvector $X in Bbb C^n.$ Then we have





      $$beginalign* X^text T A^text T A X = X^text T X. \ implies (AX)^text T AX & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda X)^text T lambda X & = X^text T X. \ implies lambda^2 X^text T X & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda^2 - 1) X^text T X & = 0. endalign*$$





      Since $X$ is an eigenvector $X neq 0.$ Therefore $_2^2 = X^text T X neq 0.$ Hence we must have $lambda^2 - 1 = 0$ i.e. $lambda^2 = 1.$ So $lambda = pm 1.$



      So according to my argument above it follows that eigenvalues of a real orthogonal matrix are $pm 1.$ But I think that I am wrong as I know that the eigenvalues of an orthogonal matrix are unit modulus i.e. they lie on the unit circle.



      What's going wrong in my argument above. Please help me in this regard.



      Thank you very much for your valuable time.










      share|cite|improve this question











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      Let $A$ be a real orthogonal matrix. Then $A^text T A = I.$ Let $lambda in Bbb C$ be an eigenvalue of $A$ corresponding to the eigenvector $X in Bbb C^n.$ Then we have





      $$beginalign* X^text T A^text T A X = X^text T X. \ implies (AX)^text T AX & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda X)^text T lambda X & = X^text T X. \ implies lambda^2 X^text T X & = X^text T X. \ implies (lambda^2 - 1) X^text T X & = 0. endalign*$$





      Since $X$ is an eigenvector $X neq 0.$ Therefore $_2^2 = X^text T X neq 0.$ Hence we must have $lambda^2 - 1 = 0$ i.e. $lambda^2 = 1.$ So $lambda = pm 1.$



      So according to my argument above it follows that eigenvalues of a real orthogonal matrix are $pm 1.$ But I think that I am wrong as I know that the eigenvalues of an orthogonal matrix are unit modulus i.e. they lie on the unit circle.



      What's going wrong in my argument above. Please help me in this regard.



      Thank you very much for your valuable time.







      linear-algebra eigenvalues-eigenvectors orthogonal-matrices






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          The mistake is your assumption that $X^TXne0$. Consider a simple example:
          $$A=pmatrix0&1\-1&0.$$
          It is orthogonal, and its eigenvalues are $pm i$. One eigenvector is
          $$X=pmatrix1\i.$$
          It satisfies $X^TX=0$.



          However, replacing $X^T$ in your argument by $X^H$ (complex conjugate
          of transpose) will give you the correct conclusion that $|lambda|^2=1$.






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            how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
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            @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
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          • $begingroup$
            I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:13







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            Which is same as $sqrt X^text HX,$ as you have rightly pointed out.
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          The mistake is your assumption that $X^TXne0$. Consider a simple example:
          $$A=pmatrix0&1\-1&0.$$
          It is orthogonal, and its eigenvalues are $pm i$. One eigenvector is
          $$X=pmatrix1\i.$$
          It satisfies $X^TX=0$.



          However, replacing $X^T$ in your argument by $X^H$ (complex conjugate
          of transpose) will give you the correct conclusion that $|lambda|^2=1$.






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            how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
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            $begingroup$
            @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
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            Mar 31 at 5:12










          • $begingroup$
            I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:13







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            Which is same as $sqrt X^text HX,$ as you have rightly pointed out.
            $endgroup$
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            Mar 31 at 5:19
















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          $begingroup$

          The mistake is your assumption that $X^TXne0$. Consider a simple example:
          $$A=pmatrix0&1\-1&0.$$
          It is orthogonal, and its eigenvalues are $pm i$. One eigenvector is
          $$X=pmatrix1\i.$$
          It satisfies $X^TX=0$.



          However, replacing $X^T$ in your argument by $X^H$ (complex conjugate
          of transpose) will give you the correct conclusion that $|lambda|^2=1$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









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            how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
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            @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
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          • $begingroup$
            I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
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          $begingroup$

          The mistake is your assumption that $X^TXne0$. Consider a simple example:
          $$A=pmatrix0&1\-1&0.$$
          It is orthogonal, and its eigenvalues are $pm i$. One eigenvector is
          $$X=pmatrix1\i.$$
          It satisfies $X^TX=0$.



          However, replacing $X^T$ in your argument by $X^H$ (complex conjugate
          of transpose) will give you the correct conclusion that $|lambda|^2=1$.






          share|cite|improve this answer









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          The mistake is your assumption that $X^TXne0$. Consider a simple example:
          $$A=pmatrix0&1\-1&0.$$
          It is orthogonal, and its eigenvalues are $pm i$. One eigenvector is
          $$X=pmatrix1\i.$$
          It satisfies $X^TX=0$.



          However, replacing $X^T$ in your argument by $X^H$ (complex conjugate
          of transpose) will give you the correct conclusion that $|lambda|^2=1$.







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            $begingroup$
            @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            Mar 31 at 5:12










          • $begingroup$
            I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:13







          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Which is same as $sqrt X^text HX,$ as you have rightly pointed out.
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:19

















          • $begingroup$
            how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:08






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
            $endgroup$
            – Lord Shark the Unknown
            Mar 31 at 5:12










          • $begingroup$
            I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:13







          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Which is same as $sqrt X^text HX,$ as you have rightly pointed out.
            $endgroup$
            – math maniac.
            Mar 31 at 5:19
















          $begingroup$
          how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
          $endgroup$
          – math maniac.
          Mar 31 at 5:08




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          how can Euclidean norm of non zero vector be zero?
          $endgroup$
          – math maniac.
          Mar 31 at 5:08




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          $begingroup$
          @mathmaniac. How can $1^2+i^2$ equal zero?
          $endgroup$
          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          Mar 31 at 5:12




          $begingroup$
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          – Lord Shark the Unknown
          Mar 31 at 5:12












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          I think the Euclidean norm of $X in Bbb C^n$ is $sqrt X^text T overline X text or sqrt overline X^text T X,$ not $sqrt X^text T X.$ Am I right?
          $endgroup$
          – math maniac.
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          – math maniac.
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