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Minimum diameter for $n$ points, given that distance between any two of them is greater than or equal to 1.



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar ManaraManifold with minimum surface distance between two pointsAre two congruent polygons guaranteed to intersect if the distance between them is less than or equal to the length of their diameter?Star-Shaped polygonsRegular polygons constructed inside regular polygonsRational distance from a regular polygon.Find the distance between two points, given maximal angles subtended by themLargest-area shape with diameter 1?Upper bound on the minimum distance between $N$ points chosen inside the unit circle?Formula for the maximum smallest-distance between $m$ points in a regular $n$-gon?Selecting two points on two circles such that their distance is greater than one circle's diameter










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There are $n$ points on a plane, such that distance between any two of them $geq 1$. Question is, what is minimum possible diameter for such set of points, that is minimum of distance between two farthest points. At first I thought optimal configuration would be regular $n$-gon with side 1. For this configuration the answer is $$fracsin(fracpincdotlfloorfracn2rfloor)sin(fracpin)$$



For $n=2,3$, this is obviously true, answer is $1$.
however for $n=7$, There is a configuration with diameter $2$, regular hexagon with side $1$, and its center.



I can't prove that regular polygon is answer for $n=4,5,6$. But I still think that it is optimal, So how can I prove it for $n=4,5,6$ and what is the answer in general case?










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    For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
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    I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
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    Mar 24 at 16:32















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$begingroup$


There are $n$ points on a plane, such that distance between any two of them $geq 1$. Question is, what is minimum possible diameter for such set of points, that is minimum of distance between two farthest points. At first I thought optimal configuration would be regular $n$-gon with side 1. For this configuration the answer is $$fracsin(fracpincdotlfloorfracn2rfloor)sin(fracpin)$$



For $n=2,3$, this is obviously true, answer is $1$.
however for $n=7$, There is a configuration with diameter $2$, regular hexagon with side $1$, and its center.



I can't prove that regular polygon is answer for $n=4,5,6$. But I still think that it is optimal, So how can I prove it for $n=4,5,6$ and what is the answer in general case?










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
    $endgroup$
    – user647486
    Mar 24 at 14:03







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
    $endgroup$
    – snowAuoue
    Mar 24 at 16:32













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There are $n$ points on a plane, such that distance between any two of them $geq 1$. Question is, what is minimum possible diameter for such set of points, that is minimum of distance between two farthest points. At first I thought optimal configuration would be regular $n$-gon with side 1. For this configuration the answer is $$fracsin(fracpincdotlfloorfracn2rfloor)sin(fracpin)$$



For $n=2,3$, this is obviously true, answer is $1$.
however for $n=7$, There is a configuration with diameter $2$, regular hexagon with side $1$, and its center.



I can't prove that regular polygon is answer for $n=4,5,6$. But I still think that it is optimal, So how can I prove it for $n=4,5,6$ and what is the answer in general case?










share|cite|improve this question











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There are $n$ points on a plane, such that distance between any two of them $geq 1$. Question is, what is minimum possible diameter for such set of points, that is minimum of distance between two farthest points. At first I thought optimal configuration would be regular $n$-gon with side 1. For this configuration the answer is $$fracsin(fracpincdotlfloorfracn2rfloor)sin(fracpin)$$



For $n=2,3$, this is obviously true, answer is $1$.
however for $n=7$, There is a configuration with diameter $2$, regular hexagon with side $1$, and its center.



I can't prove that regular polygon is answer for $n=4,5,6$. But I still think that it is optimal, So how can I prove it for $n=4,5,6$ and what is the answer in general case?







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  • $begingroup$
    For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
    $endgroup$
    – user647486
    Mar 24 at 14:03







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
    $endgroup$
    – snowAuoue
    Mar 24 at 16:32
















  • $begingroup$
    For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
    $endgroup$
    – user647486
    Mar 24 at 14:03







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
    $endgroup$
    – snowAuoue
    Mar 24 at 16:32















$begingroup$
For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
$endgroup$
– user647486
Mar 24 at 14:03





$begingroup$
For four, look at the diagonals of the convex hull of the four points. Since all sides are $geq1$, if the diagonals are $<sqrt2$, then by the law of cosines the angles are $<pi/2$. Therefore, the interior angles wouldn't add up to $2pi$. Well, I assumed that the convex hull was a quadrilateral. The cases in which the convex hull is a triangle, or a segment are similar, but easier.
$endgroup$
– user647486
Mar 24 at 14:03





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$begingroup$
I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
$endgroup$
– snowAuoue
Mar 24 at 16:32




$begingroup$
I also realized that for $n=6$, regular pentagon with side $1$ and its center has diameter of $2cos(fracpi10)=1.90211...$, so regular hexagon is not optimal
$endgroup$
– snowAuoue
Mar 24 at 16:32










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