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Hahn Decomposition Theorem In Folland



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Equivalent Measures via Hahn-Kolmogorov and $sigma-$finitenesswhat is the meaning of this statement (a use of Hahn-Banach theorem)?Uniqueness of decomposition in the Radon-Nikodym theoremAbout the proof of the Hahn decomposition theorem on WikipediaOn the example of the The Hahn decompositionA non-constructive proof of Hahn decomposition theoremCan't follow Proof in Folland: Outer Measures and Pre-measures.Prove that every signed measure $mu$ has a decomposition into difference $mu=mu^+ - mu^-$ , where $mu^+ , mu^-$ are measures .How to show sequnce of function converges uniformly on any set on which function is bounded?Doubt in understading Proof of Matrix lie group and Lie algebra locally homemorphic










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I was reading the proof of Hahn Decomposition theorem from the textbook of Folland: precisely I was looking at the following text
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I have the following question:



  1. As Highlighted in the text above, why $m$ is finite? It may be infinite as there is no restriction on $X$. Why does the author consider it finite?

  2. Again why $nu(A)<infty$ ? I do not understand also this.

  3. I understand that even for $A$ also we get some $B$ with the property that $nu(B)>nu(A)+1/n$ but I do not understand how this leads to a contradiction.

I would be really thankful if someone could help me. Any help will be appreciated.










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    I was reading the proof of Hahn Decomposition theorem from the textbook of Folland: precisely I was looking at the following text
    enter image description here



    enter image description here



    enter image description here



    I have the following question:



    1. As Highlighted in the text above, why $m$ is finite? It may be infinite as there is no restriction on $X$. Why does the author consider it finite?

    2. Again why $nu(A)<infty$ ? I do not understand also this.

    3. I understand that even for $A$ also we get some $B$ with the property that $nu(B)>nu(A)+1/n$ but I do not understand how this leads to a contradiction.

    I would be really thankful if someone could help me. Any help will be appreciated.










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      I was reading the proof of Hahn Decomposition theorem from the textbook of Folland: precisely I was looking at the following text
      enter image description here



      enter image description here



      enter image description here



      I have the following question:



      1. As Highlighted in the text above, why $m$ is finite? It may be infinite as there is no restriction on $X$. Why does the author consider it finite?

      2. Again why $nu(A)<infty$ ? I do not understand also this.

      3. I understand that even for $A$ also we get some $B$ with the property that $nu(B)>nu(A)+1/n$ but I do not understand how this leads to a contradiction.

      I would be really thankful if someone could help me. Any help will be appreciated.










      share|cite|improve this question











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      I was reading the proof of Hahn Decomposition theorem from the textbook of Folland: precisely I was looking at the following text
      enter image description here



      enter image description here



      enter image description here



      I have the following question:



      1. As Highlighted in the text above, why $m$ is finite? It may be infinite as there is no restriction on $X$. Why does the author consider it finite?

      2. Again why $nu(A)<infty$ ? I do not understand also this.

      3. I understand that even for $A$ also we get some $B$ with the property that $nu(B)>nu(A)+1/n$ but I do not understand how this leads to a contradiction.

      I would be really thankful if someone could help me. Any help will be appreciated.







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          Perhaps if you consult Folland's definition of "signed measure" you will find that all values are finite. $nu : mathcal X to (-infty,+infty)$.



          According to Wikipedia:




          There are two slightly different concepts of a signed measure, depending on whether or not one allows it to take infinite values. In research papers and advanced books signed measures are usually only allowed to take finite values, while undergraduate textbooks often allow them to take infinite values.




          Suppose we allow infinite values. Then Lebesgue measure on $mathbb R$ would be a finite measure, $E = mathbb R$ would be a positive set, and $nu(E)=infty$ on that case.






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            Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
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            @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
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          Perhaps if you consult Folland's definition of "signed measure" you will find that all values are finite. $nu : mathcal X to (-infty,+infty)$.



          According to Wikipedia:




          There are two slightly different concepts of a signed measure, depending on whether or not one allows it to take infinite values. In research papers and advanced books signed measures are usually only allowed to take finite values, while undergraduate textbooks often allow them to take infinite values.




          Suppose we allow infinite values. Then Lebesgue measure on $mathbb R$ would be a finite measure, $E = mathbb R$ would be a positive set, and $nu(E)=infty$ on that case.






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            $begingroup$
            Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
            $endgroup$
            – user370967
            Mar 31 at 10:45











          • $begingroup$
            @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
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            – SRJ
            Mar 31 at 10:57
















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          $begingroup$

          Perhaps if you consult Folland's definition of "signed measure" you will find that all values are finite. $nu : mathcal X to (-infty,+infty)$.



          According to Wikipedia:




          There are two slightly different concepts of a signed measure, depending on whether or not one allows it to take infinite values. In research papers and advanced books signed measures are usually only allowed to take finite values, while undergraduate textbooks often allow them to take infinite values.




          Suppose we allow infinite values. Then Lebesgue measure on $mathbb R$ would be a finite measure, $E = mathbb R$ would be a positive set, and $nu(E)=infty$ on that case.






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            $begingroup$
            Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
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            – user370967
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          • $begingroup$
            @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
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          Perhaps if you consult Folland's definition of "signed measure" you will find that all values are finite. $nu : mathcal X to (-infty,+infty)$.



          According to Wikipedia:




          There are two slightly different concepts of a signed measure, depending on whether or not one allows it to take infinite values. In research papers and advanced books signed measures are usually only allowed to take finite values, while undergraduate textbooks often allow them to take infinite values.




          Suppose we allow infinite values. Then Lebesgue measure on $mathbb R$ would be a finite measure, $E = mathbb R$ would be a positive set, and $nu(E)=infty$ on that case.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Perhaps if you consult Folland's definition of "signed measure" you will find that all values are finite. $nu : mathcal X to (-infty,+infty)$.



          According to Wikipedia:




          There are two slightly different concepts of a signed measure, depending on whether or not one allows it to take infinite values. In research papers and advanced books signed measures are usually only allowed to take finite values, while undergraduate textbooks often allow them to take infinite values.




          Suppose we allow infinite values. Then Lebesgue measure on $mathbb R$ would be a finite measure, $E = mathbb R$ would be a positive set, and $nu(E)=infty$ on that case.







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            $begingroup$
            Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
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            – user370967
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          • $begingroup$
            @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
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            $begingroup$
            Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
            $endgroup$
            – user370967
            Mar 31 at 10:45











          • $begingroup$
            @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
            $endgroup$
            – SRJ
            Mar 31 at 10:57








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          $begingroup$
          Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
          $endgroup$
          – user370967
          Mar 31 at 10:45





          $begingroup$
          Did you look this up? Signed measures can take infinite values as well.
          $endgroup$
          – user370967
          Mar 31 at 10:45













          $begingroup$
          @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
          $endgroup$
          – SRJ
          Mar 31 at 10:57





          $begingroup$
          @GEdgar Dear Sir , Signed measure can take at most on infinite value either positive or negative.
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          Mar 31 at 10:57


















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