Show that a set $ mathcalO subseteq mathbb R$ must be equal to $mathbb R$.Prove that $mathcalW(mathbbR)$ is not metrizable.Suppose $B_1 subseteq A$, $B_2 subseteq A$, $sup(B_1)=x_1$ and $sup(B_2)=x_2$. Prove that if $B_1 subseteq B_2$, then $x_1 Rx_2$Let $X$ be a non-empty set, $A subseteq X$. Decide the set $mathcal M(mathcalE)$ of $mathcalE$-$mathcal B(mathbb R)$-measureable functions.How to prove formally that $emptysetin tau$If we want to generate a topology $mathcalT$ on a set $X$, does a basis $mathcalB$ for $mathcalT$ need to contain $X$?Let $X$ be an infinite set and $mathcalB subseteq mathcalT_cof$ be an open base then…Validity of this proof: Prove that $cup mathcalF subseteq cap mathcalG$$x$ is a limit point of a set of real numbers iff every neighborhood contains infinitely many points of the set$mathcalA:= in mathbbN$ is a basisFind a set such that $Ain B$ and $Asubseteq B$

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Show that a set $ mathcalO subseteq mathbb R$ must be equal to $mathbb R$.


Prove that $mathcalW(mathbbR)$ is not metrizable.Suppose $B_1 subseteq A$, $B_2 subseteq A$, $sup(B_1)=x_1$ and $sup(B_2)=x_2$. Prove that if $B_1 subseteq B_2$, then $x_1 Rx_2$Let $X$ be a non-empty set, $A subseteq X$. Decide the set $mathcal M(mathcalE)$ of $mathcalE$-$mathcal B(mathbb R)$-measureable functions.How to prove formally that $emptysetin tau$If we want to generate a topology $mathcalT$ on a set $X$, does a basis $mathcalB$ for $mathcalT$ need to contain $X$?Let $X$ be an infinite set and $mathcalB subseteq mathcalT_cof$ be an open base then…Validity of this proof: Prove that $cup mathcalF subseteq cap mathcalG$$x$ is a limit point of a set of real numbers iff every neighborhood contains infinitely many points of the set$mathcalA:= in mathbbN$ is a basisFind a set such that $Ain B$ and $Asubseteq B$













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I want to find a set $mathcalO$ that satisfies the following definition
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$$exists varepsilon > 0 : forall x in mathcalO ; textit is ; (x-varepsilon,x + varepsilon ) subseteq mathcalO$$



I think the only set that would work in this case would be the set of all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to go about proving it.










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    You could create a sequence of $xin O$ that is not bounded and such that $x_i-1in (x_i-epsilon,x_i+epsilon)$
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I want to find a set $mathcalO$ that satisfies the following definition
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$$exists varepsilon > 0 : forall x in mathcalO ; textit is ; (x-varepsilon,x + varepsilon ) subseteq mathcalO$$



I think the only set that would work in this case would be the set of all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to go about proving it.










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    You could create a sequence of $xin O$ that is not bounded and such that $x_i-1in (x_i-epsilon,x_i+epsilon)$
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I want to find a set $mathcalO$ that satisfies the following definition
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$$exists varepsilon > 0 : forall x in mathcalO ; textit is ; (x-varepsilon,x + varepsilon ) subseteq mathcalO$$



I think the only set that would work in this case would be the set of all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to go about proving it.










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I want to find a set $mathcalO$ that satisfies the following definition
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$$exists varepsilon > 0 : forall x in mathcalO ; textit is ; (x-varepsilon,x + varepsilon ) subseteq mathcalO$$



I think the only set that would work in this case would be the set of all real numbers, but I'm not sure how to go about proving it.







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    You could create a sequence of $xin O$ that is not bounded and such that $x_i-1in (x_i-epsilon,x_i+epsilon)$
    $endgroup$
    – Gabriele Cassese
    Mar 29 at 20:48







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    $cal O = emptyset$ satisfies this condition vacuously.
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  • $begingroup$
    You could create a sequence of $xin O$ that is not bounded and such that $x_i-1in (x_i-epsilon,x_i+epsilon)$
    $endgroup$
    – Gabriele Cassese
    Mar 29 at 20:48







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    $cal O = emptyset$ satisfies this condition vacuously.
    $endgroup$
    – Lee Mosher
    Mar 29 at 22:04















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You could create a sequence of $xin O$ that is not bounded and such that $x_i-1in (x_i-epsilon,x_i+epsilon)$
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$cal O = emptyset$ satisfies this condition vacuously.
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The set $mathcalO$ is clearly open (it is the union of the intervals $(x-varepsilon,x+varepsilon)$ for $xin mathcalO$). On the other hand, it is also closed. To see this, let $(x_n)$ be a sequence in $mathcalO$ converging to a real number $x$. Then $|x_n-x|<varepsilon$ for sufficiently large $n$. But then $x$ belongs to the interval $(x_n-varepsilon,x_n+varepsilon)$, which is contained in $mathcalO$ by hypothesis. Thus $xin mathcalO$.



Conclusion: $mathcalO$ is both open and closed. But the only such subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ itself.



I apologize if topology on $mathbbR$ is out of the scope of the question.




In case you want to understand the above argument, let me provide the necessary definitions.



Here are two definitions for a subset $X$ of $mathbbR$:




  • $X$ open if it is a union of open intervals.


  • $X$ is closed if its complement in $mathbbR$ is open.

It's a simple exercise to show that $X$ is closed if and only if it is closed under taking limits: if $(x_n)$ is a sequence in $X$ converging to a point $xin mathbbR$, then $xin X$.



Finally, a set is clopen if it is both closed and open. Trivially, the sets $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ are clopen.



The topology theorem I used above is the following.




Theorem: The only clopen subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$.




This theorem is actually notably difficult to prove, so a lot of details are swept under the rug here.






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    If $x notin mathcalO$, then $(x-varepsilon, x+varepsilon)$ is disjoint from $mathcalO$ (for the given $varepsilon$ as in the condition on $mathcalO$): if not, $p in mathcalO$ existed with $|x-p| < varepsilon$, but this in turn implies that $x in (p-varepsilon,p+varepsilon) subseteq mathcalO$ which is a contradiction. Hence $mathcalO$ is closed and as $mathbbR$ is connected, $mathcalO=emptyset$ or $mathcalO=mathbbR$. Both do satisfy the condition...






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      If $O not = emptyset$ then



      Suppose $O not= mathbbR $, then there exist $y in mathbbR$ such that $y notin O$



      Let $x in O$, suppose $x>y$, then there exists $delta = sups>0:(-s + x,x+varepsilon)subset O$



      Then $a = -delta + x +fracvarepsilon2 in O $



      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon) subset O$



      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) subset O$



      But $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) = (a-varepsilon,x+varepsilon) = (-delta -fracvarepsilon2 + x, x + varepsilon)$



      This contradicts that $delta$ was the supreme



      The same if $x<y$



      Then $O = mathbbR$






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      The set $mathcalO$ is clearly open (it is the union of the intervals $(x-varepsilon,x+varepsilon)$ for $xin mathcalO$). On the other hand, it is also closed. To see this, let $(x_n)$ be a sequence in $mathcalO$ converging to a real number $x$. Then $|x_n-x|<varepsilon$ for sufficiently large $n$. But then $x$ belongs to the interval $(x_n-varepsilon,x_n+varepsilon)$, which is contained in $mathcalO$ by hypothesis. Thus $xin mathcalO$.



      Conclusion: $mathcalO$ is both open and closed. But the only such subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ itself.



      I apologize if topology on $mathbbR$ is out of the scope of the question.




      In case you want to understand the above argument, let me provide the necessary definitions.



      Here are two definitions for a subset $X$ of $mathbbR$:




      • $X$ open if it is a union of open intervals.


      • $X$ is closed if its complement in $mathbbR$ is open.

      It's a simple exercise to show that $X$ is closed if and only if it is closed under taking limits: if $(x_n)$ is a sequence in $X$ converging to a point $xin mathbbR$, then $xin X$.



      Finally, a set is clopen if it is both closed and open. Trivially, the sets $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ are clopen.



      The topology theorem I used above is the following.




      Theorem: The only clopen subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$.




      This theorem is actually notably difficult to prove, so a lot of details are swept under the rug here.






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        The set $mathcalO$ is clearly open (it is the union of the intervals $(x-varepsilon,x+varepsilon)$ for $xin mathcalO$). On the other hand, it is also closed. To see this, let $(x_n)$ be a sequence in $mathcalO$ converging to a real number $x$. Then $|x_n-x|<varepsilon$ for sufficiently large $n$. But then $x$ belongs to the interval $(x_n-varepsilon,x_n+varepsilon)$, which is contained in $mathcalO$ by hypothesis. Thus $xin mathcalO$.



        Conclusion: $mathcalO$ is both open and closed. But the only such subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ itself.



        I apologize if topology on $mathbbR$ is out of the scope of the question.




        In case you want to understand the above argument, let me provide the necessary definitions.



        Here are two definitions for a subset $X$ of $mathbbR$:




        • $X$ open if it is a union of open intervals.


        • $X$ is closed if its complement in $mathbbR$ is open.

        It's a simple exercise to show that $X$ is closed if and only if it is closed under taking limits: if $(x_n)$ is a sequence in $X$ converging to a point $xin mathbbR$, then $xin X$.



        Finally, a set is clopen if it is both closed and open. Trivially, the sets $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ are clopen.



        The topology theorem I used above is the following.




        Theorem: The only clopen subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$.




        This theorem is actually notably difficult to prove, so a lot of details are swept under the rug here.






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          The set $mathcalO$ is clearly open (it is the union of the intervals $(x-varepsilon,x+varepsilon)$ for $xin mathcalO$). On the other hand, it is also closed. To see this, let $(x_n)$ be a sequence in $mathcalO$ converging to a real number $x$. Then $|x_n-x|<varepsilon$ for sufficiently large $n$. But then $x$ belongs to the interval $(x_n-varepsilon,x_n+varepsilon)$, which is contained in $mathcalO$ by hypothesis. Thus $xin mathcalO$.



          Conclusion: $mathcalO$ is both open and closed. But the only such subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ itself.



          I apologize if topology on $mathbbR$ is out of the scope of the question.




          In case you want to understand the above argument, let me provide the necessary definitions.



          Here are two definitions for a subset $X$ of $mathbbR$:




          • $X$ open if it is a union of open intervals.


          • $X$ is closed if its complement in $mathbbR$ is open.

          It's a simple exercise to show that $X$ is closed if and only if it is closed under taking limits: if $(x_n)$ is a sequence in $X$ converging to a point $xin mathbbR$, then $xin X$.



          Finally, a set is clopen if it is both closed and open. Trivially, the sets $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ are clopen.



          The topology theorem I used above is the following.




          Theorem: The only clopen subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$.




          This theorem is actually notably difficult to prove, so a lot of details are swept under the rug here.






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          The set $mathcalO$ is clearly open (it is the union of the intervals $(x-varepsilon,x+varepsilon)$ for $xin mathcalO$). On the other hand, it is also closed. To see this, let $(x_n)$ be a sequence in $mathcalO$ converging to a real number $x$. Then $|x_n-x|<varepsilon$ for sufficiently large $n$. But then $x$ belongs to the interval $(x_n-varepsilon,x_n+varepsilon)$, which is contained in $mathcalO$ by hypothesis. Thus $xin mathcalO$.



          Conclusion: $mathcalO$ is both open and closed. But the only such subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ itself.



          I apologize if topology on $mathbbR$ is out of the scope of the question.




          In case you want to understand the above argument, let me provide the necessary definitions.



          Here are two definitions for a subset $X$ of $mathbbR$:




          • $X$ open if it is a union of open intervals.


          • $X$ is closed if its complement in $mathbbR$ is open.

          It's a simple exercise to show that $X$ is closed if and only if it is closed under taking limits: if $(x_n)$ is a sequence in $X$ converging to a point $xin mathbbR$, then $xin X$.



          Finally, a set is clopen if it is both closed and open. Trivially, the sets $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$ are clopen.



          The topology theorem I used above is the following.




          Theorem: The only clopen subsets of $mathbbR$ are $varnothing$ and $mathbbR$.




          This theorem is actually notably difficult to prove, so a lot of details are swept under the rug here.







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              If $x notin mathcalO$, then $(x-varepsilon, x+varepsilon)$ is disjoint from $mathcalO$ (for the given $varepsilon$ as in the condition on $mathcalO$): if not, $p in mathcalO$ existed with $|x-p| < varepsilon$, but this in turn implies that $x in (p-varepsilon,p+varepsilon) subseteq mathcalO$ which is a contradiction. Hence $mathcalO$ is closed and as $mathbbR$ is connected, $mathcalO=emptyset$ or $mathcalO=mathbbR$. Both do satisfy the condition...






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                If $x notin mathcalO$, then $(x-varepsilon, x+varepsilon)$ is disjoint from $mathcalO$ (for the given $varepsilon$ as in the condition on $mathcalO$): if not, $p in mathcalO$ existed with $|x-p| < varepsilon$, but this in turn implies that $x in (p-varepsilon,p+varepsilon) subseteq mathcalO$ which is a contradiction. Hence $mathcalO$ is closed and as $mathbbR$ is connected, $mathcalO=emptyset$ or $mathcalO=mathbbR$. Both do satisfy the condition...






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                  If $x notin mathcalO$, then $(x-varepsilon, x+varepsilon)$ is disjoint from $mathcalO$ (for the given $varepsilon$ as in the condition on $mathcalO$): if not, $p in mathcalO$ existed with $|x-p| < varepsilon$, but this in turn implies that $x in (p-varepsilon,p+varepsilon) subseteq mathcalO$ which is a contradiction. Hence $mathcalO$ is closed and as $mathbbR$ is connected, $mathcalO=emptyset$ or $mathcalO=mathbbR$. Both do satisfy the condition...






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                  If $x notin mathcalO$, then $(x-varepsilon, x+varepsilon)$ is disjoint from $mathcalO$ (for the given $varepsilon$ as in the condition on $mathcalO$): if not, $p in mathcalO$ existed with $|x-p| < varepsilon$, but this in turn implies that $x in (p-varepsilon,p+varepsilon) subseteq mathcalO$ which is a contradiction. Hence $mathcalO$ is closed and as $mathbbR$ is connected, $mathcalO=emptyset$ or $mathcalO=mathbbR$. Both do satisfy the condition...







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                      If $O not = emptyset$ then



                      Suppose $O not= mathbbR $, then there exist $y in mathbbR$ such that $y notin O$



                      Let $x in O$, suppose $x>y$, then there exists $delta = sups>0:(-s + x,x+varepsilon)subset O$



                      Then $a = -delta + x +fracvarepsilon2 in O $



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon) subset O$



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) subset O$



                      But $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) = (a-varepsilon,x+varepsilon) = (-delta -fracvarepsilon2 + x, x + varepsilon)$



                      This contradicts that $delta$ was the supreme



                      The same if $x<y$



                      Then $O = mathbbR$






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                        And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
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                        You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
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                      If $O not = emptyset$ then



                      Suppose $O not= mathbbR $, then there exist $y in mathbbR$ such that $y notin O$



                      Let $x in O$, suppose $x>y$, then there exists $delta = sups>0:(-s + x,x+varepsilon)subset O$



                      Then $a = -delta + x +fracvarepsilon2 in O $



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon) subset O$



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) subset O$



                      But $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) = (a-varepsilon,x+varepsilon) = (-delta -fracvarepsilon2 + x, x + varepsilon)$



                      This contradicts that $delta$ was the supreme



                      The same if $x<y$



                      Then $O = mathbbR$






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                        And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
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                        You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
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                      If $O not = emptyset$ then



                      Suppose $O not= mathbbR $, then there exist $y in mathbbR$ such that $y notin O$



                      Let $x in O$, suppose $x>y$, then there exists $delta = sups>0:(-s + x,x+varepsilon)subset O$



                      Then $a = -delta + x +fracvarepsilon2 in O $



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon) subset O$



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) subset O$



                      But $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) = (a-varepsilon,x+varepsilon) = (-delta -fracvarepsilon2 + x, x + varepsilon)$



                      This contradicts that $delta$ was the supreme



                      The same if $x<y$



                      Then $O = mathbbR$






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                      If $O not = emptyset$ then



                      Suppose $O not= mathbbR $, then there exist $y in mathbbR$ such that $y notin O$



                      Let $x in O$, suppose $x>y$, then there exists $delta = sups>0:(-s + x,x+varepsilon)subset O$



                      Then $a = -delta + x +fracvarepsilon2 in O $



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon) subset O$



                      Then $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) subset O$



                      But $(a-varepsilon,a+varepsilon)cup(x-delta,x+varepsilon) = (a-varepsilon,x+varepsilon) = (-delta -fracvarepsilon2 + x, x + varepsilon)$



                      This contradicts that $delta$ was the supreme



                      The same if $x<y$



                      Then $O = mathbbR$







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                        And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
                        $endgroup$
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                      • $begingroup$
                        You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
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                      • $begingroup$
                        And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
                        $endgroup$
                        – Alex Kruckman
                        Mar 29 at 23:10










                      • $begingroup$
                        You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
                        $endgroup$
                        – ZAF
                        Mar 29 at 23:19















                      $begingroup$
                      And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex Kruckman
                      Mar 29 at 23:10




                      $begingroup$
                      And what about $mathcalO = emptyset$?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Alex Kruckman
                      Mar 29 at 23:10












                      $begingroup$
                      You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
                      $endgroup$
                      – ZAF
                      Mar 29 at 23:19




                      $begingroup$
                      You are right, I overlooked the trivial case...
                      $endgroup$
                      – ZAF
                      Mar 29 at 23:19

















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