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Please give me a hint for limit of $lim_ntoinfty3^2^n$ in $mathbb Q_5$.



First, new absolute value $|cdot|'$ on $mathbb Q$ is defined as the following:



For $fracnmin mathbb Q$,$$|fracnm|'=5^-v$$
if $fracnm=5^vp_1^v_1p_2^v_2p_3^v_3...p_r^v_r$ where $p_i$: distinct prime number without 5 and $v_iinmathbb Z$.



Then, the absolute value satisfies $|r|'=0
Leftrightarrow r=0$
and triangle inequiality. Secondly, based on this absolute value and equivalence relation for Cauchy sequence, new $mathbb Q_5$
system is constructed.










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    $3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
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    Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
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    – reuns
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    No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
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    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:00







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    No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
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    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:07







  • 1




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    Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
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    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:39
















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Please give me a hint for limit of $lim_ntoinfty3^2^n$ in $mathbb Q_5$.



First, new absolute value $|cdot|'$ on $mathbb Q$ is defined as the following:



For $fracnmin mathbb Q$,$$|fracnm|'=5^-v$$
if $fracnm=5^vp_1^v_1p_2^v_2p_3^v_3...p_r^v_r$ where $p_i$: distinct prime number without 5 and $v_iinmathbb Z$.



Then, the absolute value satisfies $|r|'=0
Leftrightarrow r=0$
and triangle inequiality. Secondly, based on this absolute value and equivalence relation for Cauchy sequence, new $mathbb Q_5$
system is constructed.










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  • $begingroup$
    $3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 14:24










  • $begingroup$
    Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 16:33











  • $begingroup$
    No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:07







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:39














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Please give me a hint for limit of $lim_ntoinfty3^2^n$ in $mathbb Q_5$.



First, new absolute value $|cdot|'$ on $mathbb Q$ is defined as the following:



For $fracnmin mathbb Q$,$$|fracnm|'=5^-v$$
if $fracnm=5^vp_1^v_1p_2^v_2p_3^v_3...p_r^v_r$ where $p_i$: distinct prime number without 5 and $v_iinmathbb Z$.



Then, the absolute value satisfies $|r|'=0
Leftrightarrow r=0$
and triangle inequiality. Secondly, based on this absolute value and equivalence relation for Cauchy sequence, new $mathbb Q_5$
system is constructed.










share|cite|improve this question











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Please give me a hint for limit of $lim_ntoinfty3^2^n$ in $mathbb Q_5$.



First, new absolute value $|cdot|'$ on $mathbb Q$ is defined as the following:



For $fracnmin mathbb Q$,$$|fracnm|'=5^-v$$
if $fracnm=5^vp_1^v_1p_2^v_2p_3^v_3...p_r^v_r$ where $p_i$: distinct prime number without 5 and $v_iinmathbb Z$.



Then, the absolute value satisfies $|r|'=0
Leftrightarrow r=0$
and triangle inequiality. Secondly, based on this absolute value and equivalence relation for Cauchy sequence, new $mathbb Q_5$
system is constructed.







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  • $begingroup$
    $3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
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    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 14:24










  • $begingroup$
    Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 16:33











  • $begingroup$
    No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:07







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:39

















  • $begingroup$
    $3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 14:24










  • $begingroup$
    Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 16:33











  • $begingroup$
    No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:00







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:07







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    Mar 31 at 17:39
















$begingroup$
$3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 14:24




$begingroup$
$3^2^2 equiv 3^2^5 equiv 6 bmod 25$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 14:24












$begingroup$
Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 16:33





$begingroup$
Do you see why it answers your question ? What is $|3^2^2-3^2^3|$ and $|3^2^3n+2-(3^2^3n+3)|$ ?
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 16:33













$begingroup$
No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 17:00





$begingroup$
No $|6-36|= ? $. For the $2^2n+2$ see my first comment indicating the sequence $x_n = 3^2^n=x_n-1^2bmod 25$ is $3$-periodic
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 17:00





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No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
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– reuns
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No $|-30|= |-6| |5|= |5| = 1/5$. It is a norm, no negative values
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– reuns
Mar 31 at 17:07





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Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 31 at 17:39





$begingroup$
Because $x_n = x_n-1^2$ is a recurrence with one-backward lookup. So $x_0 = x_3$ implies...
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This is a moderately delicate question. Let’s look at $3^2^n+2$ modulo $25$. We have:
$$
3^2^n+2=3^4cdot2^n=81^2^n=(1+5cdot16)^2^nequiv(1+5)^2^nequiv1+2^ncdot5pmod25
$$

Now, you can check that for $nequiv0,1,2,3pmod4$, you get $2^nequiv1,2,4,3pmod5$ respectively, in other words, $3^2^n+2equiv6,11,21,16pmod25$ respectively, so there’s nothing like a limit here.



In fact the situation is even worse (or better, depending on your taste). Using the $5$-adic logarithm, you can show that when you restrict to values of $nequiv0pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $6+25Bbb Z_5$, and similarly for $nequiv1pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $11+25Bbb Z_5$, etc. But this density question involves more work than you want to see now.



The moral is: no limit.






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    By repeated squaring we have $3^4equiv 6bmod 25$, $3^8equiv 11$, $3^16equiv 21$, $3^32equiv 16$, $3^64equiv 6$ so the expression cycles $bmod 25$. The terms in the cycle differ by amounts having $5$-adic norm $1/5$ which never goes to zero. So there cannot be a $5$-adic limit.






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      As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
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      Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
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      Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
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    Since you're repeatedly squaring in the limit, if the limit exists,



    $$lim_nto infty 3^2^n = L$$



    then it must end up satisfying $L^2=L$. So either L=0 or L=1. It's not 0 because 3 is not divisible by 5, so it must be 1 if it exists. That means this limit must be zero:



    $$lim_n to infty 3^2^n - 1 = 0$$



    We can factor that pretty easily by a geometric series, for reference:



    $$frac3^2^n-13-1 = sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k$$



    so we can rewrite the previous limit as,



    $$lim_n to infty 2*sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k = 0$$



    in the limit if this sum converges (it doesn't), it should converge to:



    $$2 * frac11-3$$



    which is not 0, so the limit does not exist.






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      This is a moderately delicate question. Let’s look at $3^2^n+2$ modulo $25$. We have:
      $$
      3^2^n+2=3^4cdot2^n=81^2^n=(1+5cdot16)^2^nequiv(1+5)^2^nequiv1+2^ncdot5pmod25
      $$

      Now, you can check that for $nequiv0,1,2,3pmod4$, you get $2^nequiv1,2,4,3pmod5$ respectively, in other words, $3^2^n+2equiv6,11,21,16pmod25$ respectively, so there’s nothing like a limit here.



      In fact the situation is even worse (or better, depending on your taste). Using the $5$-adic logarithm, you can show that when you restrict to values of $nequiv0pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $6+25Bbb Z_5$, and similarly for $nequiv1pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $11+25Bbb Z_5$, etc. But this density question involves more work than you want to see now.



      The moral is: no limit.






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        $begingroup$

        This is a moderately delicate question. Let’s look at $3^2^n+2$ modulo $25$. We have:
        $$
        3^2^n+2=3^4cdot2^n=81^2^n=(1+5cdot16)^2^nequiv(1+5)^2^nequiv1+2^ncdot5pmod25
        $$

        Now, you can check that for $nequiv0,1,2,3pmod4$, you get $2^nequiv1,2,4,3pmod5$ respectively, in other words, $3^2^n+2equiv6,11,21,16pmod25$ respectively, so there’s nothing like a limit here.



        In fact the situation is even worse (or better, depending on your taste). Using the $5$-adic logarithm, you can show that when you restrict to values of $nequiv0pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $6+25Bbb Z_5$, and similarly for $nequiv1pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $11+25Bbb Z_5$, etc. But this density question involves more work than you want to see now.



        The moral is: no limit.






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          $begingroup$

          This is a moderately delicate question. Let’s look at $3^2^n+2$ modulo $25$. We have:
          $$
          3^2^n+2=3^4cdot2^n=81^2^n=(1+5cdot16)^2^nequiv(1+5)^2^nequiv1+2^ncdot5pmod25
          $$

          Now, you can check that for $nequiv0,1,2,3pmod4$, you get $2^nequiv1,2,4,3pmod5$ respectively, in other words, $3^2^n+2equiv6,11,21,16pmod25$ respectively, so there’s nothing like a limit here.



          In fact the situation is even worse (or better, depending on your taste). Using the $5$-adic logarithm, you can show that when you restrict to values of $nequiv0pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $6+25Bbb Z_5$, and similarly for $nequiv1pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $11+25Bbb Z_5$, etc. But this density question involves more work than you want to see now.



          The moral is: no limit.






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          This is a moderately delicate question. Let’s look at $3^2^n+2$ modulo $25$. We have:
          $$
          3^2^n+2=3^4cdot2^n=81^2^n=(1+5cdot16)^2^nequiv(1+5)^2^nequiv1+2^ncdot5pmod25
          $$

          Now, you can check that for $nequiv0,1,2,3pmod4$, you get $2^nequiv1,2,4,3pmod5$ respectively, in other words, $3^2^n+2equiv6,11,21,16pmod25$ respectively, so there’s nothing like a limit here.



          In fact the situation is even worse (or better, depending on your taste). Using the $5$-adic logarithm, you can show that when you restrict to values of $nequiv0pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $6+25Bbb Z_5$, and similarly for $nequiv1pmod4$, the numbers $(1+5cdot16)^2^n$ are dense in $11+25Bbb Z_5$, etc. But this density question involves more work than you want to see now.



          The moral is: no limit.







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              By repeated squaring we have $3^4equiv 6bmod 25$, $3^8equiv 11$, $3^16equiv 21$, $3^32equiv 16$, $3^64equiv 6$ so the expression cycles $bmod 25$. The terms in the cycle differ by amounts having $5$-adic norm $1/5$ which never goes to zero. So there cannot be a $5$-adic limit.






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              • 1




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                As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Mar 31 at 22:37










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                Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
                $endgroup$
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Mar 31 at 23:29







              • 1




                $begingroup$
                Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Apr 1 at 4:24















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              $begingroup$

              By repeated squaring we have $3^4equiv 6bmod 25$, $3^8equiv 11$, $3^16equiv 21$, $3^32equiv 16$, $3^64equiv 6$ so the expression cycles $bmod 25$. The terms in the cycle differ by amounts having $5$-adic norm $1/5$ which never goes to zero. So there cannot be a $5$-adic limit.






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              • 1




                $begingroup$
                As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Mar 31 at 22:37










              • $begingroup$
                Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
                $endgroup$
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Mar 31 at 23:29







              • 1




                $begingroup$
                Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
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                – Lubin
                Apr 1 at 4:24













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              By repeated squaring we have $3^4equiv 6bmod 25$, $3^8equiv 11$, $3^16equiv 21$, $3^32equiv 16$, $3^64equiv 6$ so the expression cycles $bmod 25$. The terms in the cycle differ by amounts having $5$-adic norm $1/5$ which never goes to zero. So there cannot be a $5$-adic limit.






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              By repeated squaring we have $3^4equiv 6bmod 25$, $3^8equiv 11$, $3^16equiv 21$, $3^32equiv 16$, $3^64equiv 6$ so the expression cycles $bmod 25$. The terms in the cycle differ by amounts having $5$-adic norm $1/5$ which never goes to zero. So there cannot be a $5$-adic limit.







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                As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Mar 31 at 22:37










              • $begingroup$
                Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
                $endgroup$
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Mar 31 at 23:29







              • 1




                $begingroup$
                Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Apr 1 at 4:24












              • 1




                $begingroup$
                As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Mar 31 at 22:37










              • $begingroup$
                Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
                $endgroup$
                – Oscar Lanzi
                Mar 31 at 23:29







              • 1




                $begingroup$
                Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
                $endgroup$
                – Lubin
                Apr 1 at 4:24







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              As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
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              – Lubin
              Mar 31 at 22:37




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              As an old hand at this $p$-adic racket, I would say that it looks highly improbable that there could be any satisfactory limit here.
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              – Lubin
              Mar 31 at 22:37












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              Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
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              – Oscar Lanzi
              Mar 31 at 23:29





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              Similarly the decimal number $0.9999999...$ does not equal $1$ in the $3$-adic metric because the series it represents does not converge.
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              – Oscar Lanzi
              Mar 31 at 23:29





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              Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
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              – Lubin
              Apr 1 at 4:24




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              Your argument is quicker than mine, but the cycling is even more fractal, if you will: there’s cycling modulo $125$ as well. And modulo $625$, $3125$, etc.
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              Since you're repeatedly squaring in the limit, if the limit exists,



              $$lim_nto infty 3^2^n = L$$



              then it must end up satisfying $L^2=L$. So either L=0 or L=1. It's not 0 because 3 is not divisible by 5, so it must be 1 if it exists. That means this limit must be zero:



              $$lim_n to infty 3^2^n - 1 = 0$$



              We can factor that pretty easily by a geometric series, for reference:



              $$frac3^2^n-13-1 = sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k$$



              so we can rewrite the previous limit as,



              $$lim_n to infty 2*sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k = 0$$



              in the limit if this sum converges (it doesn't), it should converge to:



              $$2 * frac11-3$$



              which is not 0, so the limit does not exist.






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                $begingroup$

                Since you're repeatedly squaring in the limit, if the limit exists,



                $$lim_nto infty 3^2^n = L$$



                then it must end up satisfying $L^2=L$. So either L=0 or L=1. It's not 0 because 3 is not divisible by 5, so it must be 1 if it exists. That means this limit must be zero:



                $$lim_n to infty 3^2^n - 1 = 0$$



                We can factor that pretty easily by a geometric series, for reference:



                $$frac3^2^n-13-1 = sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k$$



                so we can rewrite the previous limit as,



                $$lim_n to infty 2*sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k = 0$$



                in the limit if this sum converges (it doesn't), it should converge to:



                $$2 * frac11-3$$



                which is not 0, so the limit does not exist.






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                  Since you're repeatedly squaring in the limit, if the limit exists,



                  $$lim_nto infty 3^2^n = L$$



                  then it must end up satisfying $L^2=L$. So either L=0 or L=1. It's not 0 because 3 is not divisible by 5, so it must be 1 if it exists. That means this limit must be zero:



                  $$lim_n to infty 3^2^n - 1 = 0$$



                  We can factor that pretty easily by a geometric series, for reference:



                  $$frac3^2^n-13-1 = sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k$$



                  so we can rewrite the previous limit as,



                  $$lim_n to infty 2*sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k = 0$$



                  in the limit if this sum converges (it doesn't), it should converge to:



                  $$2 * frac11-3$$



                  which is not 0, so the limit does not exist.






                  share|cite|improve this answer









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                  Since you're repeatedly squaring in the limit, if the limit exists,



                  $$lim_nto infty 3^2^n = L$$



                  then it must end up satisfying $L^2=L$. So either L=0 or L=1. It's not 0 because 3 is not divisible by 5, so it must be 1 if it exists. That means this limit must be zero:



                  $$lim_n to infty 3^2^n - 1 = 0$$



                  We can factor that pretty easily by a geometric series, for reference:



                  $$frac3^2^n-13-1 = sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k$$



                  so we can rewrite the previous limit as,



                  $$lim_n to infty 2*sum_k=0^2^n-1 3^k = 0$$



                  in the limit if this sum converges (it doesn't), it should converge to:



                  $$2 * frac11-3$$



                  which is not 0, so the limit does not exist.







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