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Riesz Representation Theorem for Functional on Hilbert space



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are In
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)A question about projection in Hilbert space .Hypothesis of Riesz's representation theoremProb. 7, Sec. 3.8 in Erwine Kreyszig's INTRODUCTORY FUNCTIONAL ANALYSIS WITH APPLICATIONS: The dual space of a Hilbert space is a Hilbert space.Identifying the dual space of a Hilbert space using the Riesz representation theorem.A bounded linear functional on a Hilbert space that is a Hahn-Banach extension of one on a subspaceHilbert space is orthornormality needed for representation?Riesz Representation Theorem - converse true?Riesz representation theorem giving a different result?consequence of the Riesz representation theoremProjection onto the space spanned by eigenfunctions in a Hilbert space










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Let $H$ be a Hilbert space and $f in H^*$. Then there is unique $y in H$ such that $$ f(x)= langle x,y rangle$$ for all $xin H. $



In the proof of this, first we use projection theorem and express $H$ as direct sum of null space of functional and it's orthogonal complement.



Then to find the value of $y$ we take non zero element say $z$ from orthogonal complement of null space of functional and we can show that the required candidate of $y$ is some scalar multiple of $z$. In particular $y=fracf(z)z^2.$



My doubt is here $y$ is dependent on choice of $z$ so if we choose another element say $z^1$ then $y$ also varies according to this, so there are more than one value for fix $f(x)$.



Can anyone explain it.



Thank you.










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    You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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$begingroup$


Let $H$ be a Hilbert space and $f in H^*$. Then there is unique $y in H$ such that $$ f(x)= langle x,y rangle$$ for all $xin H. $



In the proof of this, first we use projection theorem and express $H$ as direct sum of null space of functional and it's orthogonal complement.



Then to find the value of $y$ we take non zero element say $z$ from orthogonal complement of null space of functional and we can show that the required candidate of $y$ is some scalar multiple of $z$. In particular $y=fracf(z)z^2.$



My doubt is here $y$ is dependent on choice of $z$ so if we choose another element say $z^1$ then $y$ also varies according to this, so there are more than one value for fix $f(x)$.



Can anyone explain it.



Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question









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    You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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    – Severin Schraven
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$begingroup$


Let $H$ be a Hilbert space and $f in H^*$. Then there is unique $y in H$ such that $$ f(x)= langle x,y rangle$$ for all $xin H. $



In the proof of this, first we use projection theorem and express $H$ as direct sum of null space of functional and it's orthogonal complement.



Then to find the value of $y$ we take non zero element say $z$ from orthogonal complement of null space of functional and we can show that the required candidate of $y$ is some scalar multiple of $z$. In particular $y=fracf(z)z^2.$



My doubt is here $y$ is dependent on choice of $z$ so if we choose another element say $z^1$ then $y$ also varies according to this, so there are more than one value for fix $f(x)$.



Can anyone explain it.



Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question









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Let $H$ be a Hilbert space and $f in H^*$. Then there is unique $y in H$ such that $$ f(x)= langle x,y rangle$$ for all $xin H. $



In the proof of this, first we use projection theorem and express $H$ as direct sum of null space of functional and it's orthogonal complement.



Then to find the value of $y$ we take non zero element say $z$ from orthogonal complement of null space of functional and we can show that the required candidate of $y$ is some scalar multiple of $z$. In particular $y=fracf(z)z^2.$



My doubt is here $y$ is dependent on choice of $z$ so if we choose another element say $z^1$ then $y$ also varies according to this, so there are more than one value for fix $f(x)$.



Can anyone explain it.



Thank you.







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    You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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    – Severin Schraven
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    $begingroup$
    You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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    – Severin Schraven
    Mar 31 at 15:31








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$begingroup$
You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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– Severin Schraven
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$begingroup$
You should split your reasoning into two steps. First existence and then uniqueness. You say that $y$ depends on the choice of $z$. But for existence this is fine, it is not allowed to depend on $x$, but this is fine as $z$ is just in the orthogonal complement of the null space of $f$ (ie does not depend on a particular $x$). What you should do, is to verify that this choice of $y$ does what we want, namely $f(x)=langle x, y rangle$.
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The uniqueness statement can easily be proven.
Let's assume we have elements $y,y'$ such that $f(x)=langle x,yrangle$ and $f(x)=langle x,y'rangle$ holds true for all $x in H$.
This implies $langle x,y-y'rangle=0$ for all $x in H$.



Then, it particular it must hold for $x :=y-y'$ which implies $y=y'$.



I agree that is not clear in the first place that $y$ is independent of the choice of $z$ but we can show it this way.
I am not sure whether there is way to see this differently.






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    The uniqueness statement can easily be proven.
    Let's assume we have elements $y,y'$ such that $f(x)=langle x,yrangle$ and $f(x)=langle x,y'rangle$ holds true for all $x in H$.
    This implies $langle x,y-y'rangle=0$ for all $x in H$.



    Then, it particular it must hold for $x :=y-y'$ which implies $y=y'$.



    I agree that is not clear in the first place that $y$ is independent of the choice of $z$ but we can show it this way.
    I am not sure whether there is way to see this differently.






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      The uniqueness statement can easily be proven.
      Let's assume we have elements $y,y'$ such that $f(x)=langle x,yrangle$ and $f(x)=langle x,y'rangle$ holds true for all $x in H$.
      This implies $langle x,y-y'rangle=0$ for all $x in H$.



      Then, it particular it must hold for $x :=y-y'$ which implies $y=y'$.



      I agree that is not clear in the first place that $y$ is independent of the choice of $z$ but we can show it this way.
      I am not sure whether there is way to see this differently.






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        The uniqueness statement can easily be proven.
        Let's assume we have elements $y,y'$ such that $f(x)=langle x,yrangle$ and $f(x)=langle x,y'rangle$ holds true for all $x in H$.
        This implies $langle x,y-y'rangle=0$ for all $x in H$.



        Then, it particular it must hold for $x :=y-y'$ which implies $y=y'$.



        I agree that is not clear in the first place that $y$ is independent of the choice of $z$ but we can show it this way.
        I am not sure whether there is way to see this differently.






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        The uniqueness statement can easily be proven.
        Let's assume we have elements $y,y'$ such that $f(x)=langle x,yrangle$ and $f(x)=langle x,y'rangle$ holds true for all $x in H$.
        This implies $langle x,y-y'rangle=0$ for all $x in H$.



        Then, it particular it must hold for $x :=y-y'$ which implies $y=y'$.



        I agree that is not clear in the first place that $y$ is independent of the choice of $z$ but we can show it this way.
        I am not sure whether there is way to see this differently.







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