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Intersection of all symbolic powers of a prime ideal
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Analogue of Krull intersection theorem for Symbolic powers of idealsDimension inequality for homomorphisms between noetherian local ringsNeed an explanation for homomorphism in commutative algebraIs there a purely category-theoretic description of the total quotient ring?Proof of Krull's intersection theorem with Taylor expansionLocal ring with finitely generated maximal ideal and $cap_n>0mathfrakm^n=0$ is Noetherian?(Dimension theory)How can I derive this corollary from Theorem 5.4.7?$bigcap_ninmathbbN I^n = (0)$ if and only if no zero divisor of $R$ is of the form $1-z$ with $zin I$.Unique prime ideal factorization in noetherian domains?Non Noetherian ring with only one prime idealIf finite product of maximal ideals of ring $R$ is zero, then $R$ is Noetherian$iff R$ is Artinian
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This is Exercise 8.37 in R.Y.Sharp's Steps in Commutative Algebra:
Let $P$ be a prime ideal of the commutative Noetherian ring $R$. Prove that
$$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)= rin R mid exists sin R setminus P ,sr=0 $$ in which $P^(n)=(P^n)^textec$ with extension and contraction notation in conjunction with the natural ring homomorphism $Rto R_P$.
There's 2 reasons I got stuck. First, I'm confused with $bigcap_1^infty$, I don't know how to use this notation. Second, the only theorem I know involving with $bigcap_1^infty$ is Krull's Intersection Theorem, stating "If $IsubseteqmathrmJac(R)$ then $bigcap_n=1^inftyI^n=0$", which I believe is useless in this situation.
So help me with this problem. THank you.
commutative-algebra noetherian
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This is Exercise 8.37 in R.Y.Sharp's Steps in Commutative Algebra:
Let $P$ be a prime ideal of the commutative Noetherian ring $R$. Prove that
$$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)= rin R mid exists sin R setminus P ,sr=0 $$ in which $P^(n)=(P^n)^textec$ with extension and contraction notation in conjunction with the natural ring homomorphism $Rto R_P$.
There's 2 reasons I got stuck. First, I'm confused with $bigcap_1^infty$, I don't know how to use this notation. Second, the only theorem I know involving with $bigcap_1^infty$ is Krull's Intersection Theorem, stating "If $IsubseteqmathrmJac(R)$ then $bigcap_n=1^inftyI^n=0$", which I believe is useless in this situation.
So help me with this problem. THank you.
commutative-algebra noetherian
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Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
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Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
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like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
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It sounds right.
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
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Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:44
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This is Exercise 8.37 in R.Y.Sharp's Steps in Commutative Algebra:
Let $P$ be a prime ideal of the commutative Noetherian ring $R$. Prove that
$$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)= rin R mid exists sin R setminus P ,sr=0 $$ in which $P^(n)=(P^n)^textec$ with extension and contraction notation in conjunction with the natural ring homomorphism $Rto R_P$.
There's 2 reasons I got stuck. First, I'm confused with $bigcap_1^infty$, I don't know how to use this notation. Second, the only theorem I know involving with $bigcap_1^infty$ is Krull's Intersection Theorem, stating "If $IsubseteqmathrmJac(R)$ then $bigcap_n=1^inftyI^n=0$", which I believe is useless in this situation.
So help me with this problem. THank you.
commutative-algebra noetherian
$endgroup$
This is Exercise 8.37 in R.Y.Sharp's Steps in Commutative Algebra:
Let $P$ be a prime ideal of the commutative Noetherian ring $R$. Prove that
$$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)= rin R mid exists sin R setminus P ,sr=0 $$ in which $P^(n)=(P^n)^textec$ with extension and contraction notation in conjunction with the natural ring homomorphism $Rto R_P$.
There's 2 reasons I got stuck. First, I'm confused with $bigcap_1^infty$, I don't know how to use this notation. Second, the only theorem I know involving with $bigcap_1^infty$ is Krull's Intersection Theorem, stating "If $IsubseteqmathrmJac(R)$ then $bigcap_n=1^inftyI^n=0$", which I believe is useless in this situation.
So help me with this problem. THank you.
commutative-algebra noetherian
commutative-algebra noetherian
edited Apr 2 at 14:58
user26857
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39.6k124284
asked Jan 12 '17 at 10:00
chí trung châuchí trung châu
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Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
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Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
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like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
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It sounds right.
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
1
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Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:44
add a comment |
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Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
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Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
$begingroup$
like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
$begingroup$
It sounds right.
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
1
$begingroup$
Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:44
$begingroup$
Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
$endgroup$
– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
$begingroup$
Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
$endgroup$
– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
$begingroup$
Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
$begingroup$
Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
$begingroup$
like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
$begingroup$
like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
$begingroup$
It sounds right.
$endgroup$
– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
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It sounds right.
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
1
1
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Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:44
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Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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Jan 12 '17 at 15:44
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We have:
$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)=bigcap_n=1^infty (P^n)^ec= (bigcap_n=1^infty (P^e)^n)^c=(frac01)^c$
$(frac01)^c=rin R$: $exists snotin P $ such that $sr=0$
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We have:
$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)=bigcap_n=1^infty (P^n)^ec= (bigcap_n=1^infty (P^e)^n)^c=(frac01)^c$
$(frac01)^c=rin R$: $exists snotin P $ such that $sr=0$
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We have:
$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)=bigcap_n=1^infty (P^n)^ec= (bigcap_n=1^infty (P^e)^n)^c=(frac01)^c$
$(frac01)^c=rin R$: $exists snotin P $ such that $sr=0$
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add a comment |
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We have:
$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)=bigcap_n=1^infty (P^n)^ec= (bigcap_n=1^infty (P^e)^n)^c=(frac01)^c$
$(frac01)^c=rin R$: $exists snotin P $ such that $sr=0$
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We have:
$bigcap_n=1^infty P^(n)=bigcap_n=1^infty (P^n)^ec= (bigcap_n=1^infty (P^e)^n)^c=(frac01)^c$
$(frac01)^c=rin R$: $exists snotin P $ such that $sr=0$
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Your guess that the KIT is useless is wrong. If $xin P^(n)$ then $xin P^nR_P=(PR_P)^n$. Can you take it from here?
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:18
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Okay, thanks to your hint, I solved the inclusion. One more thing, now that I recheck, I was wrong about the converse. Now I solved it using your hint, too.
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:38
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like this, $r/1=0in (P^n)^e$, so $rin (P^n)^ec$. It's true, right?
$endgroup$
– chí trung châu
Jan 12 '17 at 15:39
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It sounds right.
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– user26857
Jan 12 '17 at 15:43
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Ok. Thank you for your help @user26857
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Jan 12 '17 at 15:44