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The number of elements in a set of matrices with some properties



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)How to classify the sets $M$ by their structures?Showing that the group of Unitary matrices $(U_n)$ is non-abelian for $n geq 2$Prove that the only $3×3$ matrices which commute with any $3×3$ matrices are of the form $cI$ for some scalar $c$…Basis for the space of 4*4 hermitian matrices with specific anti-commutation propertiesSet of matrices commutative to the given matrix.Number of a matrices with a given set of vectors as eigenvectorsDecomposition of symmetric matrix into SPDs matrix satisfy some additional propertiesWhat are the matrices $ A $ such as $ exp(A+B) = exp(A)exp(B) $ for all $ B $Basic properties of the matrix logarithmGrowth of “spectral bounded” sequences of products of matricesAre there Hermitian Unitary matrices U and V generating $mathbbZ/2 ast mathbbZ/2$?










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Given $M$ comprised of $ntimes n$ matrices, which satisfies




  1. $I_n in M$ and $0_n notin M$

  2. If $A,B in M$, then $AB in M$ or $-AB in M$

  3. If $A,B in M$, then $AB = BA $ or $AB = -BA$

  4. If $Ain M$ and $Ane I_n$, then there exists $B in M$ such that $AB=-BA$

Prove that the number of elements in $M$ in less than $2 n^2$.




Some thoughts



For the condition 4 , we can say the corresponding $Bne I_n,A$.



Because if $B=I_n$ , we get $A=0$ , a contradiction.



If $B= A$ then $AB=0$ , which contradicts the condition 2.



Thus we can consider $M$ as the set of such pairs $(A,B)$.



But how to move on? Any hints? Thank you in advance!



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It's easy to see for all $A in M$, $A^2$ and $-A^2$ commute with all the matrices in $M$.



Thus from conditions 2 and 4 we get $A^2 = I$ or $-I$, which might help.










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    Given $M$ comprised of $ntimes n$ matrices, which satisfies




    1. $I_n in M$ and $0_n notin M$

    2. If $A,B in M$, then $AB in M$ or $-AB in M$

    3. If $A,B in M$, then $AB = BA $ or $AB = -BA$

    4. If $Ain M$ and $Ane I_n$, then there exists $B in M$ such that $AB=-BA$

    Prove that the number of elements in $M$ in less than $2 n^2$.




    Some thoughts



    For the condition 4 , we can say the corresponding $Bne I_n,A$.



    Because if $B=I_n$ , we get $A=0$ , a contradiction.



    If $B= A$ then $AB=0$ , which contradicts the condition 2.



    Thus we can consider $M$ as the set of such pairs $(A,B)$.



    But how to move on? Any hints? Thank you in advance!



    Added



    It's easy to see for all $A in M$, $A^2$ and $-A^2$ commute with all the matrices in $M$.



    Thus from conditions 2 and 4 we get $A^2 = I$ or $-I$, which might help.










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      Given $M$ comprised of $ntimes n$ matrices, which satisfies




      1. $I_n in M$ and $0_n notin M$

      2. If $A,B in M$, then $AB in M$ or $-AB in M$

      3. If $A,B in M$, then $AB = BA $ or $AB = -BA$

      4. If $Ain M$ and $Ane I_n$, then there exists $B in M$ such that $AB=-BA$

      Prove that the number of elements in $M$ in less than $2 n^2$.




      Some thoughts



      For the condition 4 , we can say the corresponding $Bne I_n,A$.



      Because if $B=I_n$ , we get $A=0$ , a contradiction.



      If $B= A$ then $AB=0$ , which contradicts the condition 2.



      Thus we can consider $M$ as the set of such pairs $(A,B)$.



      But how to move on? Any hints? Thank you in advance!



      Added



      It's easy to see for all $A in M$, $A^2$ and $-A^2$ commute with all the matrices in $M$.



      Thus from conditions 2 and 4 we get $A^2 = I$ or $-I$, which might help.










      share|cite|improve this question











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      Given $M$ comprised of $ntimes n$ matrices, which satisfies




      1. $I_n in M$ and $0_n notin M$

      2. If $A,B in M$, then $AB in M$ or $-AB in M$

      3. If $A,B in M$, then $AB = BA $ or $AB = -BA$

      4. If $Ain M$ and $Ane I_n$, then there exists $B in M$ such that $AB=-BA$

      Prove that the number of elements in $M$ in less than $2 n^2$.




      Some thoughts



      For the condition 4 , we can say the corresponding $Bne I_n,A$.



      Because if $B=I_n$ , we get $A=0$ , a contradiction.



      If $B= A$ then $AB=0$ , which contradicts the condition 2.



      Thus we can consider $M$ as the set of such pairs $(A,B)$.



      But how to move on? Any hints? Thank you in advance!



      Added



      It's easy to see for all $A in M$, $A^2$ and $-A^2$ commute with all the matrices in $M$.



      Thus from conditions 2 and 4 we get $A^2 = I$ or $-I$, which might help.







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          I showed my advisor this and he came up with the following argument.



          First I assume you're working over $mathbbC$.



          Let $G:=Mcup -M = Ain M_n(mathbbC) : pm A in M$. Then $G$ is a group: it's clearly closed under multiplications, so you just have to show it's closed under inverses. If $Ain G$ then you can show that $A^2in G$ commutes with every element of $M$ and hence $A^2=pm I$ since otherwise we could find an element in $M$ that skew-commutes with it. Thus $G$ is a group and every element of $G$ has square $pm I$.



          Now let $A$ denote the $mathbbC$-span of elements of $G$ in $M_n(mathbbC)$. Then by Maschke's theorem, $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ with $sum n_i = n$. Now since $sum 2n_i^2 le 2n^2$, and by looking at projections and using induction, it suffices to consider the case when $A=M_n(mathbbC)$. In this case, there is a basis $A_1,ldots ,A_n^2$ of $M_n(mathbbC)$ consisting of elements of $G$.




          Claim: if $Xin G$ is not $pm I$ then $X$ has trace zero.




          Proof: This can be seen by noting that there is some $Y$ in $G$ with $XY=-YX$ and since $Y$ is invertible, this gives that $X$ is similar to $-X$. QED



          To finish it off, we claim that $G$ must be equal to $S=pm A_1,ldots ,pm A_n^2$ and so it has size at most $2n^2$. If not, there is some $Xin G$ that is not in $S$. Then $XA_i neq pm I$ for $i=1,ldots, n^2$ since $A_i^-1=pm A_i$ and so $rm Tr(XA_i)=0$ for $1le ile n^2$. But since the $A_i$ span $M_n(mathbbC)$ that gives that $rm Tr(XY)=0$ for all matrices $Y$ and so $X=0$, a contradiction, since $X$ is in $G$. So we're done.






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            Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
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          • $begingroup$
            You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
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          I showed my advisor this and he came up with the following argument.



          First I assume you're working over $mathbbC$.



          Let $G:=Mcup -M = Ain M_n(mathbbC) : pm A in M$. Then $G$ is a group: it's clearly closed under multiplications, so you just have to show it's closed under inverses. If $Ain G$ then you can show that $A^2in G$ commutes with every element of $M$ and hence $A^2=pm I$ since otherwise we could find an element in $M$ that skew-commutes with it. Thus $G$ is a group and every element of $G$ has square $pm I$.



          Now let $A$ denote the $mathbbC$-span of elements of $G$ in $M_n(mathbbC)$. Then by Maschke's theorem, $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ with $sum n_i = n$. Now since $sum 2n_i^2 le 2n^2$, and by looking at projections and using induction, it suffices to consider the case when $A=M_n(mathbbC)$. In this case, there is a basis $A_1,ldots ,A_n^2$ of $M_n(mathbbC)$ consisting of elements of $G$.




          Claim: if $Xin G$ is not $pm I$ then $X$ has trace zero.




          Proof: This can be seen by noting that there is some $Y$ in $G$ with $XY=-YX$ and since $Y$ is invertible, this gives that $X$ is similar to $-X$. QED



          To finish it off, we claim that $G$ must be equal to $S=pm A_1,ldots ,pm A_n^2$ and so it has size at most $2n^2$. If not, there is some $Xin G$ that is not in $S$. Then $XA_i neq pm I$ for $i=1,ldots, n^2$ since $A_i^-1=pm A_i$ and so $rm Tr(XA_i)=0$ for $1le ile n^2$. But since the $A_i$ span $M_n(mathbbC)$ that gives that $rm Tr(XY)=0$ for all matrices $Y$ and so $X=0$, a contradiction, since $X$ is in $G$. So we're done.






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          • $begingroup$
            Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
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            – Zero
            Apr 3 at 7:06











          • $begingroup$
            You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsaan
            Apr 3 at 13:23















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          $begingroup$

          I showed my advisor this and he came up with the following argument.



          First I assume you're working over $mathbbC$.



          Let $G:=Mcup -M = Ain M_n(mathbbC) : pm A in M$. Then $G$ is a group: it's clearly closed under multiplications, so you just have to show it's closed under inverses. If $Ain G$ then you can show that $A^2in G$ commutes with every element of $M$ and hence $A^2=pm I$ since otherwise we could find an element in $M$ that skew-commutes with it. Thus $G$ is a group and every element of $G$ has square $pm I$.



          Now let $A$ denote the $mathbbC$-span of elements of $G$ in $M_n(mathbbC)$. Then by Maschke's theorem, $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ with $sum n_i = n$. Now since $sum 2n_i^2 le 2n^2$, and by looking at projections and using induction, it suffices to consider the case when $A=M_n(mathbbC)$. In this case, there is a basis $A_1,ldots ,A_n^2$ of $M_n(mathbbC)$ consisting of elements of $G$.




          Claim: if $Xin G$ is not $pm I$ then $X$ has trace zero.




          Proof: This can be seen by noting that there is some $Y$ in $G$ with $XY=-YX$ and since $Y$ is invertible, this gives that $X$ is similar to $-X$. QED



          To finish it off, we claim that $G$ must be equal to $S=pm A_1,ldots ,pm A_n^2$ and so it has size at most $2n^2$. If not, there is some $Xin G$ that is not in $S$. Then $XA_i neq pm I$ for $i=1,ldots, n^2$ since $A_i^-1=pm A_i$ and so $rm Tr(XA_i)=0$ for $1le ile n^2$. But since the $A_i$ span $M_n(mathbbC)$ that gives that $rm Tr(XY)=0$ for all matrices $Y$ and so $X=0$, a contradiction, since $X$ is in $G$. So we're done.






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          • $begingroup$
            Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
            $endgroup$
            – Zero
            Apr 3 at 7:06











          • $begingroup$
            You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsaan
            Apr 3 at 13:23













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          $begingroup$

          I showed my advisor this and he came up with the following argument.



          First I assume you're working over $mathbbC$.



          Let $G:=Mcup -M = Ain M_n(mathbbC) : pm A in M$. Then $G$ is a group: it's clearly closed under multiplications, so you just have to show it's closed under inverses. If $Ain G$ then you can show that $A^2in G$ commutes with every element of $M$ and hence $A^2=pm I$ since otherwise we could find an element in $M$ that skew-commutes with it. Thus $G$ is a group and every element of $G$ has square $pm I$.



          Now let $A$ denote the $mathbbC$-span of elements of $G$ in $M_n(mathbbC)$. Then by Maschke's theorem, $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ with $sum n_i = n$. Now since $sum 2n_i^2 le 2n^2$, and by looking at projections and using induction, it suffices to consider the case when $A=M_n(mathbbC)$. In this case, there is a basis $A_1,ldots ,A_n^2$ of $M_n(mathbbC)$ consisting of elements of $G$.




          Claim: if $Xin G$ is not $pm I$ then $X$ has trace zero.




          Proof: This can be seen by noting that there is some $Y$ in $G$ with $XY=-YX$ and since $Y$ is invertible, this gives that $X$ is similar to $-X$. QED



          To finish it off, we claim that $G$ must be equal to $S=pm A_1,ldots ,pm A_n^2$ and so it has size at most $2n^2$. If not, there is some $Xin G$ that is not in $S$. Then $XA_i neq pm I$ for $i=1,ldots, n^2$ since $A_i^-1=pm A_i$ and so $rm Tr(XA_i)=0$ for $1le ile n^2$. But since the $A_i$ span $M_n(mathbbC)$ that gives that $rm Tr(XY)=0$ for all matrices $Y$ and so $X=0$, a contradiction, since $X$ is in $G$. So we're done.






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          I showed my advisor this and he came up with the following argument.



          First I assume you're working over $mathbbC$.



          Let $G:=Mcup -M = Ain M_n(mathbbC) : pm A in M$. Then $G$ is a group: it's clearly closed under multiplications, so you just have to show it's closed under inverses. If $Ain G$ then you can show that $A^2in G$ commutes with every element of $M$ and hence $A^2=pm I$ since otherwise we could find an element in $M$ that skew-commutes with it. Thus $G$ is a group and every element of $G$ has square $pm I$.



          Now let $A$ denote the $mathbbC$-span of elements of $G$ in $M_n(mathbbC)$. Then by Maschke's theorem, $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ with $sum n_i = n$. Now since $sum 2n_i^2 le 2n^2$, and by looking at projections and using induction, it suffices to consider the case when $A=M_n(mathbbC)$. In this case, there is a basis $A_1,ldots ,A_n^2$ of $M_n(mathbbC)$ consisting of elements of $G$.




          Claim: if $Xin G$ is not $pm I$ then $X$ has trace zero.




          Proof: This can be seen by noting that there is some $Y$ in $G$ with $XY=-YX$ and since $Y$ is invertible, this gives that $X$ is similar to $-X$. QED



          To finish it off, we claim that $G$ must be equal to $S=pm A_1,ldots ,pm A_n^2$ and so it has size at most $2n^2$. If not, there is some $Xin G$ that is not in $S$. Then $XA_i neq pm I$ for $i=1,ldots, n^2$ since $A_i^-1=pm A_i$ and so $rm Tr(XA_i)=0$ for $1le ile n^2$. But since the $A_i$ span $M_n(mathbbC)$ that gives that $rm Tr(XY)=0$ for all matrices $Y$ and so $X=0$, a contradiction, since $X$ is in $G$. So we're done.







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          • $begingroup$
            Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
            $endgroup$
            – Zero
            Apr 3 at 7:06











          • $begingroup$
            You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsaan
            Apr 3 at 13:23
















          • $begingroup$
            Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
            $endgroup$
            – Zero
            Apr 3 at 7:06











          • $begingroup$
            You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
            $endgroup$
            – Ehsaan
            Apr 3 at 13:23















          $begingroup$
          Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
          $endgroup$
          – Zero
          Apr 3 at 7:06





          $begingroup$
          Well, thank you very much for this nice argument. But I looked through Maschke's theorem, it involves a lot of concepts that I'm not familiar with. Can you give me some hints to point out $Acong prod_i=1^d M_n_i(mathbbC)$ in this particular qustion? Thanks in advance!
          $endgroup$
          – Zero
          Apr 3 at 7:06













          $begingroup$
          You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
          $endgroup$
          – Ehsaan
          Apr 3 at 13:23




          $begingroup$
          You should look up the Artin--Wedderburn Theorem. To be fair, this is a somewhat high-powered argument, so be careful if this is meant to be a homework exercise.
          $endgroup$
          – Ehsaan
          Apr 3 at 13:23

















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