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To show a function is in a Sobolev space, can we use weak spherical derivatives?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Finding the weak derivativesFor which real values of $alpha$ PDE $Delta u(x,y)+2u(x,y)=x-alpha$ has at least one weak solution?Is it a Sobolev function?How can I prove that this function doesn't have a second weak derivative?Show that this function is weakly differentiableWeak derivative of a piecewise defined functionHow to show that a function is differentiable even though its partial derivatives in origin don't existInterpolation of derivatives in Sobolev spacesCommutativity of weak partial derivatives. Don't follow proof.Prove this function is differentiable at a point but the partial derivatives are not continuous










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For example, say $Omega=B(0,1)$ in $mathbbR^2$, and I have a function represented by
$$u(x)=begincaseslnln1/|x|& |x|leq e^-2\ln(2) &e^-2<|x|leq 1.endcases$$
There is a natural candidate for a representative of the weak partial derivatives. Namely
$$D^alphau(x)=begincasesD^alphalnln1/|x|&|x|leq e^-2\0&textotherwise.endcases$$
Since the circle has measure $0$ we need not even define the derivative there. Now my reasoning for spherical derivatives is that
$$fracpartiallnln1/partial x_1=fracx_1x,$$
which has a singularity at $(0,0).$ While
$$fracpartiallnln1/rpartial r=frac1rln r$$
may also have a singularity at $0,$ when we go to integrate it using spherical coordinates the singularity is resolved when we multiply by $r.$ Hence
$$int_0^2piint_0^e^-2frac1rln rr drdtheta$$
is finite as $1/ln r$ has an extension to the closure of $B(0,e^-2)$ and is therefore bounded.










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    For example, say $Omega=B(0,1)$ in $mathbbR^2$, and I have a function represented by
    $$u(x)=begincaseslnln1/|x|& |x|leq e^-2\ln(2) &e^-2<|x|leq 1.endcases$$
    There is a natural candidate for a representative of the weak partial derivatives. Namely
    $$D^alphau(x)=begincasesD^alphalnln1/|x|&|x|leq e^-2\0&textotherwise.endcases$$
    Since the circle has measure $0$ we need not even define the derivative there. Now my reasoning for spherical derivatives is that
    $$fracpartiallnln1/partial x_1=fracx_1x,$$
    which has a singularity at $(0,0).$ While
    $$fracpartiallnln1/rpartial r=frac1rln r$$
    may also have a singularity at $0,$ when we go to integrate it using spherical coordinates the singularity is resolved when we multiply by $r.$ Hence
    $$int_0^2piint_0^e^-2frac1rln rr drdtheta$$
    is finite as $1/ln r$ has an extension to the closure of $B(0,e^-2)$ and is therefore bounded.










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      For example, say $Omega=B(0,1)$ in $mathbbR^2$, and I have a function represented by
      $$u(x)=begincaseslnln1/|x|& |x|leq e^-2\ln(2) &e^-2<|x|leq 1.endcases$$
      There is a natural candidate for a representative of the weak partial derivatives. Namely
      $$D^alphau(x)=begincasesD^alphalnln1/|x|&|x|leq e^-2\0&textotherwise.endcases$$
      Since the circle has measure $0$ we need not even define the derivative there. Now my reasoning for spherical derivatives is that
      $$fracpartiallnln1/partial x_1=fracx_1x,$$
      which has a singularity at $(0,0).$ While
      $$fracpartiallnln1/rpartial r=frac1rln r$$
      may also have a singularity at $0,$ when we go to integrate it using spherical coordinates the singularity is resolved when we multiply by $r.$ Hence
      $$int_0^2piint_0^e^-2frac1rln rr drdtheta$$
      is finite as $1/ln r$ has an extension to the closure of $B(0,e^-2)$ and is therefore bounded.










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      For example, say $Omega=B(0,1)$ in $mathbbR^2$, and I have a function represented by
      $$u(x)=begincaseslnln1/|x|& |x|leq e^-2\ln(2) &e^-2<|x|leq 1.endcases$$
      There is a natural candidate for a representative of the weak partial derivatives. Namely
      $$D^alphau(x)=begincasesD^alphalnln1/|x|&|x|leq e^-2\0&textotherwise.endcases$$
      Since the circle has measure $0$ we need not even define the derivative there. Now my reasoning for spherical derivatives is that
      $$fracpartiallnln1/partial x_1=fracx_1x,$$
      which has a singularity at $(0,0).$ While
      $$fracpartiallnln1/rpartial r=frac1rln r$$
      may also have a singularity at $0,$ when we go to integrate it using spherical coordinates the singularity is resolved when we multiply by $r.$ Hence
      $$int_0^2piint_0^e^-2frac1rln rr drdtheta$$
      is finite as $1/ln r$ has an extension to the closure of $B(0,e^-2)$ and is therefore bounded.







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