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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA= 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Right triangle where the perimeter = area*kIn △ABC, median AM = 17, altitude AD = 15 and the circum-radius R = 10. Find BC^2A problem related to circle , altitude , triangle.A question related to triangles , areas , ratio of areas of triangles.A circle is inscribed in sector of another bigger circle.Given A(circle) find the A(triangle formed by the center and the endpoints of the sector).Area such that $d(P, AB) leq min d(P,BC), d(P,AC)$Scalene triangle with semicircles mensurationMinimizing the area of the triangles containing a square of side $1$New Proof of Pythagorean Theorem (using inscribed circle)?How do I prove that the area of any triangle can be obtained using “Heron’s Formula” $longrightarrow A_t = sqrts(s - a)(s - b)(s - c)$?










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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.



Here is a sketch that I drew:
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From the given areas ,
$r*AC=60$
$r*AB=52$
$r*BC=56$

So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
Also,
$A=rs$
$2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$

But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
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    In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.



    Here is a sketch that I drew:
    figure

    From the given areas ,
    $r*AC=60$
    $r*AB=52$
    $r*BC=56$

    So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
    Also,
    $A=rs$
    $2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$

    But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
    So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
    (This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )










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      In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.



      Here is a sketch that I drew:
      figure

      From the given areas ,
      $r*AC=60$
      $r*AB=52$
      $r*BC=56$

      So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
      Also,
      $A=rs$
      $2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$

      But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
      So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
      (This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )










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      In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.



      Here is a sketch that I drew:
      figure

      From the given areas ,
      $r*AC=60$
      $r*AB=52$
      $r*BC=56$

      So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
      Also,
      $A=rs$
      $2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$

      But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
      So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
      (This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )







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          Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$



          Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.






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            Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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            Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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            @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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            Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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          we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
          $$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
          then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
          $$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
          Then we have the equality:
          $$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
          $$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
          Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
          $S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
          Then we have
          $$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).



          then we have what we want.






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            A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.



            You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.






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              @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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            Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$



            Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.






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              Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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              Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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              @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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            • $begingroup$
              Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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            $begingroup$

            Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$



            Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.






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            • $begingroup$
              Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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              Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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              @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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              Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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            Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$



            Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.






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            Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$



            Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.







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            • $begingroup$
              Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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            • $begingroup$
              Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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              @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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              Mar 31 '14 at 11:27











            • $begingroup$
              Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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              Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
















            • $begingroup$
              Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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              – A Googler
              Mar 31 '14 at 11:22










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              Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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              Mar 31 '14 at 11:25






            • 1




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              @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
              $endgroup$
              – Sawarnik
              Mar 31 '14 at 11:27











            • $begingroup$
              Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
              $endgroup$
              – A Googler
              Mar 31 '14 at 11:28















            $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:22




            $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:22












            $begingroup$
            Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:25




            $begingroup$
            Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:25




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            @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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            Mar 31 '14 at 11:27





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            @AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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            Mar 31 '14 at 11:27













            $begingroup$
            Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:28




            $begingroup$
            Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
            $endgroup$
            – A Googler
            Mar 31 '14 at 11:28











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            we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
            $$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
            then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
            $$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
            Then we have the equality:
            $$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
            $$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
            Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
            $S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
            Then we have
            $$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).



            then we have what we want.






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              we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
              $$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
              then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
              $$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
              Then we have the equality:
              $$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
              $$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
              Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
              $S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
              Then we have
              $$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).



              then we have what we want.






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                we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
                $$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
                then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
                $$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
                Then we have the equality:
                $$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
                $$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
                Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
                $S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
                Then we have
                $$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).



                then we have what we want.






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                we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
                $$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
                then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
                $$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
                Then we have the equality:
                $$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
                $$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
                Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
                $S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
                Then we have
                $$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).



                then we have what we want.







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                    A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.



                    You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.






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                      Nice method you've there !
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                      @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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                      – Beni Bogosel
                      Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
















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                    $begingroup$

                    A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.



                    You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.






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                      Nice method you've there !
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                      – A Googler
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                    • 2




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                      @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Beni Bogosel
                      Mar 31 '14 at 11:30














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                    A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.



                    You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.






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                    A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.



                    You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.







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                      Nice method you've there !
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                      @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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                      – Beni Bogosel
                      Mar 31 '14 at 11:30








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                    $begingroup$
                    Nice method you've there !
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                    – A Googler
                    Mar 31 '14 at 11:27




                    $begingroup$
                    Nice method you've there !
                    $endgroup$
                    – A Googler
                    Mar 31 '14 at 11:27




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                    $begingroup$
                    @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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                    – Beni Bogosel
                    Mar 31 '14 at 11:30





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                    @AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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