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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA= 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Right triangle where the perimeter = area*kIn △ABC, median AM = 17, altitude AD = 15 and the circum-radius R = 10. Find BC^2A problem related to circle , altitude , triangle.A question related to triangles , areas , ratio of areas of triangles.A circle is inscribed in sector of another bigger circle.Given A(circle) find the A(triangle formed by the center and the endpoints of the sector).Area such that $d(P, AB) leq min d(P,BC), d(P,AC)$Scalene triangle with semicircles mensurationMinimizing the area of the triangles containing a square of side $1$New Proof of Pythagorean Theorem (using inscribed circle)?How do I prove that the area of any triangle can be obtained using “Heron’s Formula” $longrightarrow A_t = sqrts(s - a)(s - b)(s - c)$?
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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.
Here is a sketch that I drew:
From the given areas ,
$r*AC=60$
$r*AB=52$
$r*BC=56$
So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
Also,
$A=rs$
$2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$
But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )
geometry triangles
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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.
Here is a sketch that I drew:
From the given areas ,
$r*AC=60$
$r*AB=52$
$r*BC=56$
So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
Also,
$A=rs$
$2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$
But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )
geometry triangles
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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.
Here is a sketch that I drew:
From the given areas ,
$r*AC=60$
$r*AB=52$
$r*BC=56$
So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
Also,
$A=rs$
$2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$
But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )
geometry triangles
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In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA = 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$.
Here is a sketch that I drew:
From the given areas ,
$r*AC=60$
$r*AB=52$
$r*BC=56$
So that I've three equations with 4 unknowns .
Also,
$A=rs$
$2A=168=r(AB+BC+AC)$
But this can't be used as it can be derived from the other three equations.
So, what should I do? Any hints are apreciated.
(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )
geometry triangles
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Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$
Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.
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Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
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we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
$$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
$$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
Then we have the equality:
$$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
$$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
$S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
Then we have
$$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).
then we have what we want.
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A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.
You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$
Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.
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Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
1
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
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Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$
Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.
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Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
1
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
$endgroup$
– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$
Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.
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Note that $b=frac15a14$, $c=frac13a14$. Thus, $s=frac14a+13a+15a2cdot14=frac3a2$. So by Heron's formula, $$84=sqrtfrac3a^24cdot frac3a7cdot frac4a7=frac6a^214$$
Thus, $a^2=14^2$, or $a=14$. Now you can go on from here.
edited Mar 31 '14 at 11:24
answered Mar 31 '14 at 11:16
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Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
1
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
$endgroup$
– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
1
$begingroup$
@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
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– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
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Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
$begingroup$
Thanks a lot ! I got the answer ( it's 56)
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:22
$begingroup$
Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
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Why did you calculate $r^2(b^2-c^2)$?
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:25
1
1
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
$endgroup$
– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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@AGoogler Yes, you are right. It was an overkill. No prob :)
$endgroup$
– Sawarnik
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
$begingroup$
Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
$endgroup$
– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
$begingroup$
Oh, I just used $b=15a/14$ and $c=13a/14$ to calculate $b$ and $c$ separately and then calculated the answer.
$endgroup$
– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:28
add a comment |
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we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
$$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
$$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
Then we have the equality:
$$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
$$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
$S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
Then we have
$$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).
then we have what we want.
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we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
$$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
$$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
Then we have the equality:
$$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
$$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
$S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
Then we have
$$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).
then we have what we want.
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we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
$$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
$$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
Then we have the equality:
$$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
$$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
$S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
Then we have
$$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).
then we have what we want.
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we note $AC=b,BC=a,AB=c$, we will find $b^2-c^2$. We have
$$ar=56,br=60,cr=52.$$
then we have the proportion of $a$ and $b,c$:
$$b=frac6056a,c=frac5256a$$
Then we have the equality:
$$a=frac56112(b+c)=frac12(b+c)$$
$$a=frac568(b-c)=7(b-c)$$
Now we should recall the formula of triangle's area:
$S=sqrtp(p-a)(p-b)(p-c)$, where $p=fraca+b+c2$
Then we have
$$84=sqrtfraca+b+c2cdotfracb+c-a2cdotfraca+c-b2cdotfraca+b-c2\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-a^2][a^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrt[(b+c)^2-frac14(b+c)^2][49(b-c)^2-(b-c)^2]\=frac14sqrtfrac34(b+c)^2cdot48(b-c)^2\frac32|b^2-c^2|\=frac32(b^2-c^2)$$(because $b>c$).
then we have what we want.
answered Mar 31 '14 at 11:20
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A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.
You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
2
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
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$begingroup$
A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.
You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.
$endgroup$
1
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
2
$begingroup$
@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
$endgroup$
– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.
You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.
$endgroup$
A remark on the solvability of the question: you are given $ra=56,rb=60,rc=52$ (with the usual notations $r$ the inradius, $a=BC$, etc). Therefore you can deduce that the triangle $ABC$ is similar to the triangle $Delta=(56,60,52)$ with scaling ratio $r$.
You find the area of $ABC$ by summing up the areas of the three triangles and use the fact that $r^2 Area(ABC)=Area(Delta)$ (you can calculate $Area(Delta)$). This gives you $r$, and therefore you can find $a,b,c$.
answered Mar 31 '14 at 11:24
Beni BogoselBeni Bogosel
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
2
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
add a comment |
1
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
2
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
1
1
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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Nice method you've there !
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– A Googler
Mar 31 '14 at 11:27
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
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@AGoogler: It's not really a method. You analyze what you're given and see what you can obtain out of that.
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– Beni Bogosel
Mar 31 '14 at 11:30
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