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Find the angle in an isosceles triangle [on hold]



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowFind an angle of an isosceles triangle$AB=AC$, $BD$ is the angle bisector of $angle B$ , find $angle A$Find angle in isosceles triangle where median yields another isosceles triangleHow to use congruence and angle bisector theorem for this geometry question involving isosceles triangle?Find angle $alpha$ in this triangle question.Prove that $2AK=BP+PC$ in isosceles triangle.Is the Incenter always “below” the middle point of an angle bisector segment in a triangle?What is the angle of $angle BPC$ in $triangle BPC$What is the value of $AD+CD$ where $ABC$ is an isosceles triangle, $D$ bisects angle $ACB, BC = 2017$ unit?In $triangle ABC$, $D$ is an exterior point such that $AC = CD$ and $CE$ is parallel to $AF$. Find the area of $ABDF$.










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Let triangle $Delta ABC$ have $AB=AC$. Then we draw the angle bisector from $B$ to $AC$ intersecting at $D$. Find the angle $angle BAC$ if $BC=AD+BD$.



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I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended $AD$ to a point $E$ so it is equal to $BC$, then the angle $angle DCE$ is the same as $angle ACB$.










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Let triangle $Delta ABC$ have $AB=AC$. Then we draw the angle bisector from $B$ to $AC$ intersecting at $D$. Find the angle $angle BAC$ if $BC=AD+BD$.



My attempts:



I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended $AD$ to a point $E$ so it is equal to $BC$, then the angle $angle DCE$ is the same as $angle ACB$.










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    I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended AD to a point E so it is equal to BC the angle DCE is the same as ACB.
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Let triangle $Delta ABC$ have $AB=AC$. Then we draw the angle bisector from $B$ to $AC$ intersecting at $D$. Find the angle $angle BAC$ if $BC=AD+BD$.



My attempts:



I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended $AD$ to a point $E$ so it is equal to $BC$, then the angle $angle DCE$ is the same as $angle ACB$.










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Let triangle $Delta ABC$ have $AB=AC$. Then we draw the angle bisector from $B$ to $AC$ intersecting at $D$. Find the angle $angle BAC$ if $BC=AD+BD$.



My attempts:



I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended $AD$ to a point $E$ so it is equal to $BC$, then the angle $angle DCE$ is the same as $angle ACB$.







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    I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended AD to a point E so it is equal to BC the angle DCE is the same as ACB.
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    – AJMC2002
    Mar 28 at 17:18











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    I posted. See now.
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    – Michael Rozenberg
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    Mar 28 at 10:22










  • $begingroup$
    I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended AD to a point E so it is equal to BC the angle DCE is the same as ACB.
    $endgroup$
    – AJMC2002
    Mar 28 at 17:18











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    I posted. See now.
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I know that the answer is 100° but I couldn't prove that if you extended AD to a point E so it is equal to BC the angle DCE is the same as ACB.
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I posted. See now.
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In the standard notation we obtain:
$$fracADDC=fracABBC=fracca$$ and $$AD+DC=AC=b,$$ which gives
$$AD=fracbca+c,$$ $$DC=fracaba+c$$ and
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC=ac-fracb^2ac(a+c)^2=ab-fracab^3(a+b)^2,$$
which gives $$BD=fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b.$$
Id est, by the given we obtain:
$$a=fracb^2a+b+fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b$$ or
$$asqrtb(a+2b)=a^2+ab-b^2.$$
Now, $sinfracalpha2=fracfraca2b=fraca2b.$



Let $sinfracalpha2=x.$



Thus, $a=2xb$ and we obtain:
$$2xsqrt2(x+1)=4x^2+2x-1$$ or
$$8x^2(x+1)=(4x^2+2x-1)^2,$$ where $x>0$ and $4x^2+2x-1>0.$



We obtain:
$$16x^4+8x^3-12x^2-4x+1=0$$ or
$$8x^3(2x+1)-12x^2-6x+2x+1=0$$ or
$$(2x+1)(8x^3-6x+1)=0$$ or
$$3x-4x^3=frac12$$ or
$$sinfrac3alpha2=frac12,$$ which gives
$$frac3alpha2=30^circ,$$ which is impossible because $4x^2+2x-1>0,$ or
$$frac3alpha2=150^circ,$$ which gives $alpha=100^circ$ and $beta=gamma=40^circ.$



The fact that $$BD^2=ABcdot BD-ADcdot DC$$ we can prove by the following reasoning.



Let $Phi$ be a circumcircle of $Delta ABC$ and $ADcapPhi=A,E$.



Thus, $measuredangle BAC=measuredangle BEC$ and $measuredangle ABD=measuredangle EBD,$ which gives $Delta ABDsimDelta EBC.$



Hence, $$fracABBE=fracBDBC$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BDcdot BE$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BD(BD+DE)$$ or
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-BDcdot DE$$ or
$$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC.$$






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In the standard notation we obtain:
$$fracADDC=fracABBC=fracca$$ and $$AD+DC=AC=b,$$ which gives
$$AD=fracbca+c,$$ $$DC=fracaba+c$$ and
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC=ac-fracb^2ac(a+c)^2=ab-fracab^3(a+b)^2,$$
which gives $$BD=fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b.$$
Id est, by the given we obtain:
$$a=fracb^2a+b+fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b$$ or
$$asqrtb(a+2b)=a^2+ab-b^2.$$
Now, $sinfracalpha2=fracfraca2b=fraca2b.$



Let $sinfracalpha2=x.$



Thus, $a=2xb$ and we obtain:
$$2xsqrt2(x+1)=4x^2+2x-1$$ or
$$8x^2(x+1)=(4x^2+2x-1)^2,$$ where $x>0$ and $4x^2+2x-1>0.$



We obtain:
$$16x^4+8x^3-12x^2-4x+1=0$$ or
$$8x^3(2x+1)-12x^2-6x+2x+1=0$$ or
$$(2x+1)(8x^3-6x+1)=0$$ or
$$3x-4x^3=frac12$$ or
$$sinfrac3alpha2=frac12,$$ which gives
$$frac3alpha2=30^circ,$$ which is impossible because $4x^2+2x-1>0,$ or
$$frac3alpha2=150^circ,$$ which gives $alpha=100^circ$ and $beta=gamma=40^circ.$



The fact that $$BD^2=ABcdot BD-ADcdot DC$$ we can prove by the following reasoning.



Let $Phi$ be a circumcircle of $Delta ABC$ and $ADcapPhi=A,E$.



Thus, $measuredangle BAC=measuredangle BEC$ and $measuredangle ABD=measuredangle EBD,$ which gives $Delta ABDsimDelta EBC.$



Hence, $$fracABBE=fracBDBC$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BDcdot BE$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BD(BD+DE)$$ or
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-BDcdot DE$$ or
$$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC.$$






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    Could you elaborate on how did you get BD²=AB•BC-AD•DC? Thanks
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    @user658009 I added something. See now.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Mar 29 at 8:13















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$begingroup$

In the standard notation we obtain:
$$fracADDC=fracABBC=fracca$$ and $$AD+DC=AC=b,$$ which gives
$$AD=fracbca+c,$$ $$DC=fracaba+c$$ and
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC=ac-fracb^2ac(a+c)^2=ab-fracab^3(a+b)^2,$$
which gives $$BD=fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b.$$
Id est, by the given we obtain:
$$a=fracb^2a+b+fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b$$ or
$$asqrtb(a+2b)=a^2+ab-b^2.$$
Now, $sinfracalpha2=fracfraca2b=fraca2b.$



Let $sinfracalpha2=x.$



Thus, $a=2xb$ and we obtain:
$$2xsqrt2(x+1)=4x^2+2x-1$$ or
$$8x^2(x+1)=(4x^2+2x-1)^2,$$ where $x>0$ and $4x^2+2x-1>0.$



We obtain:
$$16x^4+8x^3-12x^2-4x+1=0$$ or
$$8x^3(2x+1)-12x^2-6x+2x+1=0$$ or
$$(2x+1)(8x^3-6x+1)=0$$ or
$$3x-4x^3=frac12$$ or
$$sinfrac3alpha2=frac12,$$ which gives
$$frac3alpha2=30^circ,$$ which is impossible because $4x^2+2x-1>0,$ or
$$frac3alpha2=150^circ,$$ which gives $alpha=100^circ$ and $beta=gamma=40^circ.$



The fact that $$BD^2=ABcdot BD-ADcdot DC$$ we can prove by the following reasoning.



Let $Phi$ be a circumcircle of $Delta ABC$ and $ADcapPhi=A,E$.



Thus, $measuredangle BAC=measuredangle BEC$ and $measuredangle ABD=measuredangle EBD,$ which gives $Delta ABDsimDelta EBC.$



Hence, $$fracABBE=fracBDBC$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BDcdot BE$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BD(BD+DE)$$ or
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-BDcdot DE$$ or
$$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC.$$






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    Could you elaborate on how did you get BD²=AB•BC-AD•DC? Thanks
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    Mar 29 at 5:39










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    @user658009 I added something. See now.
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Mar 29 at 8:13













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$begingroup$

In the standard notation we obtain:
$$fracADDC=fracABBC=fracca$$ and $$AD+DC=AC=b,$$ which gives
$$AD=fracbca+c,$$ $$DC=fracaba+c$$ and
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC=ac-fracb^2ac(a+c)^2=ab-fracab^3(a+b)^2,$$
which gives $$BD=fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b.$$
Id est, by the given we obtain:
$$a=fracb^2a+b+fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b$$ or
$$asqrtb(a+2b)=a^2+ab-b^2.$$
Now, $sinfracalpha2=fracfraca2b=fraca2b.$



Let $sinfracalpha2=x.$



Thus, $a=2xb$ and we obtain:
$$2xsqrt2(x+1)=4x^2+2x-1$$ or
$$8x^2(x+1)=(4x^2+2x-1)^2,$$ where $x>0$ and $4x^2+2x-1>0.$



We obtain:
$$16x^4+8x^3-12x^2-4x+1=0$$ or
$$8x^3(2x+1)-12x^2-6x+2x+1=0$$ or
$$(2x+1)(8x^3-6x+1)=0$$ or
$$3x-4x^3=frac12$$ or
$$sinfrac3alpha2=frac12,$$ which gives
$$frac3alpha2=30^circ,$$ which is impossible because $4x^2+2x-1>0,$ or
$$frac3alpha2=150^circ,$$ which gives $alpha=100^circ$ and $beta=gamma=40^circ.$



The fact that $$BD^2=ABcdot BD-ADcdot DC$$ we can prove by the following reasoning.



Let $Phi$ be a circumcircle of $Delta ABC$ and $ADcapPhi=A,E$.



Thus, $measuredangle BAC=measuredangle BEC$ and $measuredangle ABD=measuredangle EBD,$ which gives $Delta ABDsimDelta EBC.$



Hence, $$fracABBE=fracBDBC$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BDcdot BE$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BD(BD+DE)$$ or
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-BDcdot DE$$ or
$$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC.$$






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In the standard notation we obtain:
$$fracADDC=fracABBC=fracca$$ and $$AD+DC=AC=b,$$ which gives
$$AD=fracbca+c,$$ $$DC=fracaba+c$$ and
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC=ac-fracb^2ac(a+c)^2=ab-fracab^3(a+b)^2,$$
which gives $$BD=fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b.$$
Id est, by the given we obtain:
$$a=fracb^2a+b+fracasqrtb(a+2b)a+b$$ or
$$asqrtb(a+2b)=a^2+ab-b^2.$$
Now, $sinfracalpha2=fracfraca2b=fraca2b.$



Let $sinfracalpha2=x.$



Thus, $a=2xb$ and we obtain:
$$2xsqrt2(x+1)=4x^2+2x-1$$ or
$$8x^2(x+1)=(4x^2+2x-1)^2,$$ where $x>0$ and $4x^2+2x-1>0.$



We obtain:
$$16x^4+8x^3-12x^2-4x+1=0$$ or
$$8x^3(2x+1)-12x^2-6x+2x+1=0$$ or
$$(2x+1)(8x^3-6x+1)=0$$ or
$$3x-4x^3=frac12$$ or
$$sinfrac3alpha2=frac12,$$ which gives
$$frac3alpha2=30^circ,$$ which is impossible because $4x^2+2x-1>0,$ or
$$frac3alpha2=150^circ,$$ which gives $alpha=100^circ$ and $beta=gamma=40^circ.$



The fact that $$BD^2=ABcdot BD-ADcdot DC$$ we can prove by the following reasoning.



Let $Phi$ be a circumcircle of $Delta ABC$ and $ADcapPhi=A,E$.



Thus, $measuredangle BAC=measuredangle BEC$ and $measuredangle ABD=measuredangle EBD,$ which gives $Delta ABDsimDelta EBC.$



Hence, $$fracABBE=fracBDBC$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BDcdot BE$$ or
$$ABcdot BC=BD(BD+DE)$$ or
$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-BDcdot DE$$ or
$$$BD^2=ABcdot BC-ADcdot DC.$$







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    Could you elaborate on how did you get BD²=AB•BC-AD•DC? Thanks
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    Mar 29 at 5:39










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    @user658009 I added something. See now.
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Could you elaborate on how did you get BD²=AB•BC-AD•DC? Thanks
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Mar 29 at 5:39




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Could you elaborate on how did you get BD²=AB•BC-AD•DC? Thanks
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Mar 29 at 5:39












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@user658009 I added something. See now.
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