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Real Analysis, Problem 3.2.14 The Radon Nikodym Theorem



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Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Attempted proof - Consider $mu(E)$ where $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$. Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $mu(E)$ must be bounded which implies it has a supremum. We will define the supremum as $$L = supF: F textis sigma-textfinite for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since it is taken to be a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets. On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$. Now we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem: so, suppose that $Fcap E = emptyset$ well since $nullmu$ then by definition $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$. If $mu(F) > 0$ then for sake of contradiction suppose $|nu(F)|neq infty$. Then since $mu$ is finite $mu(Fcup E) > mu(E)$ then this implies that $Ecup F$ is not $sigma$-finite since a $sigma$-finite set with a union of a finite set is $sigma$-finite. Therefore $|nu(F)| = infty$.



Thus I believe we can refer to Radon-Nikidym theorem to conclude that there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.



I am not sure if this is completely correct, any suggestions is greatly appreciated.










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Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Attempted proof - Consider $mu(E)$ where $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$. Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $mu(E)$ must be bounded which implies it has a supremum. We will define the supremum as $$L = supF: F textis sigma-textfinite for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since it is taken to be a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets. On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$. Now we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem: so, suppose that $Fcap E = emptyset$ well since $nullmu$ then by definition $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$. If $mu(F) > 0$ then for sake of contradiction suppose $|nu(F)|neq infty$. Then since $mu$ is finite $mu(Fcup E) > mu(E)$ then this implies that $Ecup F$ is not $sigma$-finite since a $sigma$-finite set with a union of a finite set is $sigma$-finite. Therefore $|nu(F)| = infty$.



Thus I believe we can refer to Radon-Nikidym theorem to conclude that there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.



I am not sure if this is completely correct, any suggestions is greatly appreciated.










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Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Attempted proof - Consider $mu(E)$ where $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$. Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $mu(E)$ must be bounded which implies it has a supremum. We will define the supremum as $$L = supF: F textis sigma-textfinite for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since it is taken to be a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets. On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$. Now we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem: so, suppose that $Fcap E = emptyset$ well since $nullmu$ then by definition $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$. If $mu(F) > 0$ then for sake of contradiction suppose $|nu(F)|neq infty$. Then since $mu$ is finite $mu(Fcup E) > mu(E)$ then this implies that $Ecup F$ is not $sigma$-finite since a $sigma$-finite set with a union of a finite set is $sigma$-finite. Therefore $|nu(F)| = infty$.



Thus I believe we can refer to Radon-Nikidym theorem to conclude that there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.



I am not sure if this is completely correct, any suggestions is greatly appreciated.










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Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Attempted proof - Consider $mu(E)$ where $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$. Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $mu(E)$ must be bounded which implies it has a supremum. We will define the supremum as $$L = supF: F textis sigma-textfinite for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since it is taken to be a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets. On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$. Now we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem: so, suppose that $Fcap E = emptyset$ well since $nullmu$ then by definition $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$. If $mu(F) > 0$ then for sake of contradiction suppose $|nu(F)|neq infty$. Then since $mu$ is finite $mu(Fcup E) > mu(E)$ then this implies that $Ecup F$ is not $sigma$-finite since a $sigma$-finite set with a union of a finite set is $sigma$-finite. Therefore $|nu(F)| = infty$.



Thus I believe we can refer to Radon-Nikidym theorem to conclude that there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.



I am not sure if this is completely correct, any suggestions is greatly appreciated.







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@Wolfy, here is a detailed proof, following Folland's hints.




Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Proof - Let us work on hint a.).



Since $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$, there is a countable family $X_n_n$ of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$ such that, fo all $n$, $mu(X_n)<infty$ and $X=bigcup_n X_n$.



Now, let $P$ and $N$ be a Hahn decomposition of $X$ for $nu$. Then $X=Pcup N$, $Pcap N= emptyset$ and, for all measurable set $A$,
$$nu^+(A)=nu(Acap P) quad nu^-(A)=-nu(Acap N)$$



For each $n$, $nu^+|_X_nll mu|_X_n$ and $nu^-|_X_n ll mu|_X_n$.
If we can prove for those cases, that there are extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$.



It is easy to see that $g_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Pcap X_n$ and $f_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Ncap X_n$. So, $h_n=f_n-g_n$ is well defined $mu$-a.e.. (I means we will not have $infty -infty$).



Since $X_n_n$ is a countable family of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$, we have that
$h= sum_n h_n$ is a measurable function and $h:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ and we also have, for any $A$ measurable set,
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nu(A) &= sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap P) + sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap N)= \
&= sum_nnu^+(Acap X_n) - sum_nnu^-(Acap X_n)= \
&= sum_n int_Acap X_n f_n dmu - sum_n int_Acap X_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n f_n dmu - int_A sum_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n (f_n - g_n) dmu = \
& =int_A sum_n h_n dmu = int_A h dmu
endalign*

So we have proved that, for any $A$ measurable set,
$$nu(A) = int_A h dmu$$
Since $nu$ is a signed measure, it does not attain either $+infty$ or $-infty$. It follows then that $h$ is not only measurable but it an extended $mu$-integrable function. (In other word, either $int h^+ dmu <infty$ or $int h^- dmu <infty$ or both).



Now, to complete the proof, all we need is to prove that




If $nu$ is a (positive) measure and $mu$ is a finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended measurable function $f:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.




Consider the set
$$S = mu(F) : textrm $F$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$ $$



Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $S$ must be bounded which implies it has a finite supremum. We will define the supremum as
$$L = supmu(F) : F textis a sigmatext-finite set for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set (being a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets). On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.
So we used hint b.). Now let us work on hint c.).



Now, since $nu|_E$ is $sigma$-finite and $nu|_Ell mu|_E$ we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem, and so there is $f_1:Erightarrow [0,+infty)$ such that
$$nu(Acap E) =int_Acap E f_1 dmu tag1$$



Now, given any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$, suppose that $mu(F)>0$ and $nu(F) <infty$. Then $Ecup F$ is $sigma$-finite for $nu$, (that is $Ecup F in S$) and
$$mu(Ecup F) =mu(E) +mu( F) > mu(E)=L = sup S$$
Contradiction.



So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,
we have two cases:




  1. $mu(F) =0$ then, since $nu ll mu$, $nu(F)=0$.

  2. if $mu(F)>0$ then $nu(F)=+infty$.

So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,



$$ nu(F) = int_F +infty chi_E^c dmu $$



That means, for any measurable set $A$,



$$ nu(Acap E^c) = int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu tag2$$



Let $f:X rightarrow [0,+infty]$ be defined as $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for $x in E$ and $f(x)=+infty$ for $x notin E$. From $(1)$ and $(2)$, we have, for any measurable set $A$,
$$nu(A)= nu(Acap E)+ nu(Acap E^c)= int_Acap E f_1 dmu +int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu= int_A f dmu$$






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    Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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    In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
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    @user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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    @Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
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    @user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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@Wolfy, here is a detailed proof, following Folland's hints.




Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Proof - Let us work on hint a.).



Since $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$, there is a countable family $X_n_n$ of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$ such that, fo all $n$, $mu(X_n)<infty$ and $X=bigcup_n X_n$.



Now, let $P$ and $N$ be a Hahn decomposition of $X$ for $nu$. Then $X=Pcup N$, $Pcap N= emptyset$ and, for all measurable set $A$,
$$nu^+(A)=nu(Acap P) quad nu^-(A)=-nu(Acap N)$$



For each $n$, $nu^+|_X_nll mu|_X_n$ and $nu^-|_X_n ll mu|_X_n$.
If we can prove for those cases, that there are extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$.



It is easy to see that $g_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Pcap X_n$ and $f_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Ncap X_n$. So, $h_n=f_n-g_n$ is well defined $mu$-a.e.. (I means we will not have $infty -infty$).



Since $X_n_n$ is a countable family of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$, we have that
$h= sum_n h_n$ is a measurable function and $h:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ and we also have, for any $A$ measurable set,
beginalign*
nu(A) &= sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap P) + sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap N)= \
&= sum_nnu^+(Acap X_n) - sum_nnu^-(Acap X_n)= \
&= sum_n int_Acap X_n f_n dmu - sum_n int_Acap X_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n f_n dmu - int_A sum_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n (f_n - g_n) dmu = \
& =int_A sum_n h_n dmu = int_A h dmu
endalign*

So we have proved that, for any $A$ measurable set,
$$nu(A) = int_A h dmu$$
Since $nu$ is a signed measure, it does not attain either $+infty$ or $-infty$. It follows then that $h$ is not only measurable but it an extended $mu$-integrable function. (In other word, either $int h^+ dmu <infty$ or $int h^- dmu <infty$ or both).



Now, to complete the proof, all we need is to prove that




If $nu$ is a (positive) measure and $mu$ is a finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended measurable function $f:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.




Consider the set
$$S = mu(F) : textrm $F$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$ $$



Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $S$ must be bounded which implies it has a finite supremum. We will define the supremum as
$$L = supmu(F) : F textis a sigmatext-finite set for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set (being a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets). On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.
So we used hint b.). Now let us work on hint c.).



Now, since $nu|_E$ is $sigma$-finite and $nu|_Ell mu|_E$ we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem, and so there is $f_1:Erightarrow [0,+infty)$ such that
$$nu(Acap E) =int_Acap E f_1 dmu tag1$$



Now, given any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$, suppose that $mu(F)>0$ and $nu(F) <infty$. Then $Ecup F$ is $sigma$-finite for $nu$, (that is $Ecup F in S$) and
$$mu(Ecup F) =mu(E) +mu( F) > mu(E)=L = sup S$$
Contradiction.



So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,
we have two cases:




  1. $mu(F) =0$ then, since $nu ll mu$, $nu(F)=0$.

  2. if $mu(F)>0$ then $nu(F)=+infty$.

So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,



$$ nu(F) = int_F +infty chi_E^c dmu $$



That means, for any measurable set $A$,



$$ nu(Acap E^c) = int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu tag2$$



Let $f:X rightarrow [0,+infty]$ be defined as $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for $x in E$ and $f(x)=+infty$ for $x notin E$. From $(1)$ and $(2)$, we have, for any measurable set $A$,
$$nu(A)= nu(Acap E)+ nu(Acap E^c)= int_Acap E f_1 dmu +int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu= int_A f dmu$$






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    Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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    In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
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    @user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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    @Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
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    @user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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@Wolfy, here is a detailed proof, following Folland's hints.




Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Proof - Let us work on hint a.).



Since $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$, there is a countable family $X_n_n$ of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$ such that, fo all $n$, $mu(X_n)<infty$ and $X=bigcup_n X_n$.



Now, let $P$ and $N$ be a Hahn decomposition of $X$ for $nu$. Then $X=Pcup N$, $Pcap N= emptyset$ and, for all measurable set $A$,
$$nu^+(A)=nu(Acap P) quad nu^-(A)=-nu(Acap N)$$



For each $n$, $nu^+|_X_nll mu|_X_n$ and $nu^-|_X_n ll mu|_X_n$.
If we can prove for those cases, that there are extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$.



It is easy to see that $g_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Pcap X_n$ and $f_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Ncap X_n$. So, $h_n=f_n-g_n$ is well defined $mu$-a.e.. (I means we will not have $infty -infty$).



Since $X_n_n$ is a countable family of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$, we have that
$h= sum_n h_n$ is a measurable function and $h:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ and we also have, for any $A$ measurable set,
beginalign*
nu(A) &= sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap P) + sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap N)= \
&= sum_nnu^+(Acap X_n) - sum_nnu^-(Acap X_n)= \
&= sum_n int_Acap X_n f_n dmu - sum_n int_Acap X_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n f_n dmu - int_A sum_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n (f_n - g_n) dmu = \
& =int_A sum_n h_n dmu = int_A h dmu
endalign*

So we have proved that, for any $A$ measurable set,
$$nu(A) = int_A h dmu$$
Since $nu$ is a signed measure, it does not attain either $+infty$ or $-infty$. It follows then that $h$ is not only measurable but it an extended $mu$-integrable function. (In other word, either $int h^+ dmu <infty$ or $int h^- dmu <infty$ or both).



Now, to complete the proof, all we need is to prove that




If $nu$ is a (positive) measure and $mu$ is a finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended measurable function $f:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.




Consider the set
$$S = mu(F) : textrm $F$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$ $$



Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $S$ must be bounded which implies it has a finite supremum. We will define the supremum as
$$L = supmu(F) : F textis a sigmatext-finite set for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set (being a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets). On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.
So we used hint b.). Now let us work on hint c.).



Now, since $nu|_E$ is $sigma$-finite and $nu|_Ell mu|_E$ we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem, and so there is $f_1:Erightarrow [0,+infty)$ such that
$$nu(Acap E) =int_Acap E f_1 dmu tag1$$



Now, given any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$, suppose that $mu(F)>0$ and $nu(F) <infty$. Then $Ecup F$ is $sigma$-finite for $nu$, (that is $Ecup F in S$) and
$$mu(Ecup F) =mu(E) +mu( F) > mu(E)=L = sup S$$
Contradiction.



So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,
we have two cases:




  1. $mu(F) =0$ then, since $nu ll mu$, $nu(F)=0$.

  2. if $mu(F)>0$ then $nu(F)=+infty$.

So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,



$$ nu(F) = int_F +infty chi_E^c dmu $$



That means, for any measurable set $A$,



$$ nu(Acap E^c) = int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu tag2$$



Let $f:X rightarrow [0,+infty]$ be defined as $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for $x in E$ and $f(x)=+infty$ for $x notin E$. From $(1)$ and $(2)$, we have, for any measurable set $A$,
$$nu(A)= nu(Acap E)+ nu(Acap E^c)= int_Acap E f_1 dmu +int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu= int_A f dmu$$






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    Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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    In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
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    @user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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    @Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
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    @user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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@Wolfy, here is a detailed proof, following Folland's hints.




Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Proof - Let us work on hint a.).



Since $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$, there is a countable family $X_n_n$ of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$ such that, fo all $n$, $mu(X_n)<infty$ and $X=bigcup_n X_n$.



Now, let $P$ and $N$ be a Hahn decomposition of $X$ for $nu$. Then $X=Pcup N$, $Pcap N= emptyset$ and, for all measurable set $A$,
$$nu^+(A)=nu(Acap P) quad nu^-(A)=-nu(Acap N)$$



For each $n$, $nu^+|_X_nll mu|_X_n$ and $nu^-|_X_n ll mu|_X_n$.
If we can prove for those cases, that there are extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$.



It is easy to see that $g_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Pcap X_n$ and $f_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Ncap X_n$. So, $h_n=f_n-g_n$ is well defined $mu$-a.e.. (I means we will not have $infty -infty$).



Since $X_n_n$ is a countable family of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$, we have that
$h= sum_n h_n$ is a measurable function and $h:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ and we also have, for any $A$ measurable set,
beginalign*
nu(A) &= sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap P) + sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap N)= \
&= sum_nnu^+(Acap X_n) - sum_nnu^-(Acap X_n)= \
&= sum_n int_Acap X_n f_n dmu - sum_n int_Acap X_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n f_n dmu - int_A sum_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n (f_n - g_n) dmu = \
& =int_A sum_n h_n dmu = int_A h dmu
endalign*

So we have proved that, for any $A$ measurable set,
$$nu(A) = int_A h dmu$$
Since $nu$ is a signed measure, it does not attain either $+infty$ or $-infty$. It follows then that $h$ is not only measurable but it an extended $mu$-integrable function. (In other word, either $int h^+ dmu <infty$ or $int h^- dmu <infty$ or both).



Now, to complete the proof, all we need is to prove that




If $nu$ is a (positive) measure and $mu$ is a finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended measurable function $f:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.




Consider the set
$$S = mu(F) : textrm $F$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$ $$



Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $S$ must be bounded which implies it has a finite supremum. We will define the supremum as
$$L = supmu(F) : F textis a sigmatext-finite set for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set (being a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets). On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.
So we used hint b.). Now let us work on hint c.).



Now, since $nu|_E$ is $sigma$-finite and $nu|_Ell mu|_E$ we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem, and so there is $f_1:Erightarrow [0,+infty)$ such that
$$nu(Acap E) =int_Acap E f_1 dmu tag1$$



Now, given any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$, suppose that $mu(F)>0$ and $nu(F) <infty$. Then $Ecup F$ is $sigma$-finite for $nu$, (that is $Ecup F in S$) and
$$mu(Ecup F) =mu(E) +mu( F) > mu(E)=L = sup S$$
Contradiction.



So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,
we have two cases:




  1. $mu(F) =0$ then, since $nu ll mu$, $nu(F)=0$.

  2. if $mu(F)>0$ then $nu(F)=+infty$.

So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,



$$ nu(F) = int_F +infty chi_E^c dmu $$



That means, for any measurable set $A$,



$$ nu(Acap E^c) = int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu tag2$$



Let $f:X rightarrow [0,+infty]$ be defined as $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for $x in E$ and $f(x)=+infty$ for $x notin E$. From $(1)$ and $(2)$, we have, for any measurable set $A$,
$$nu(A)= nu(Acap E)+ nu(Acap E^c)= int_Acap E f_1 dmu +int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu= int_A f dmu$$






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@Wolfy, here is a detailed proof, following Folland's hints.




Problem 3.3.14 - If $nu$ is an arbitrary signed measure and $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended $mu$-integrable function $f:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$. Hints:



a.) It suffices to assume that $mu$ is finite and $nu$ is positive.



b.) With these assumptions, there exists an $Ein M$ that is $sigma$-finite for $nu$ such that $mu(E)geq mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.



c.) The Radon-Nikodym theorem applies on $E$. If $Fcap E = emptyset$, then either $nu(F) = mu(F) = 0$ or $mu(F) > 0$ and $|nu(F)| = infty$.




Proof - Let us work on hint a.).



Since $mu$ is a $sigma$-finite measure on $(X,M)$, there is a countable family $X_n_n$ of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$ such that, fo all $n$, $mu(X_n)<infty$ and $X=bigcup_n X_n$.



Now, let $P$ and $N$ be a Hahn decomposition of $X$ for $nu$. Then $X=Pcup N$, $Pcap N= emptyset$ and, for all measurable set $A$,
$$nu^+(A)=nu(Acap P) quad nu^-(A)=-nu(Acap N)$$



For each $n$, $nu^+|_X_nll mu|_X_n$ and $nu^-|_X_n ll mu|_X_n$.
If we can prove for those cases, that there are extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$.



It is easy to see that $g_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Pcap X_n$ and $f_n = 0$ $mu$-a.e. on $Ncap X_n$. So, $h_n=f_n-g_n$ is well defined $mu$-a.e.. (I means we will not have $infty -infty$).



Since $X_n_n$ is a countable family of disjoint measurable subsets of $X$, we have that
$h= sum_n h_n$ is a measurable function and $h:Xrightarrow [-infty,infty]$ and we also have, for any $A$ measurable set,
beginalign*
nu(A) &= sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap P) + sum_nnu(Acap X_ncap N)= \
&= sum_nnu^+(Acap X_n) - sum_nnu^-(Acap X_n)= \
&= sum_n int_Acap X_n f_n dmu - sum_n int_Acap X_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n f_n dmu - int_A sum_n g_n dmu= \
&= int_A sum_n (f_n - g_n) dmu = \
& =int_A sum_n h_n dmu = int_A h dmu
endalign*

So we have proved that, for any $A$ measurable set,
$$nu(A) = int_A h dmu$$
Since $nu$ is a signed measure, it does not attain either $+infty$ or $-infty$. It follows then that $h$ is not only measurable but it an extended $mu$-integrable function. (In other word, either $int h^+ dmu <infty$ or $int h^- dmu <infty$ or both).



Now, to complete the proof, all we need is to prove that




If $nu$ is a (positive) measure and $mu$ is a finite measure on $(X,M)$ such that $null mu$, there exists an extended measurable function $f:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu = fdmu$.




Consider the set
$$S = mu(F) : textrm $F$ is a $sigma$-finite set for $nu$ $$



Since we have that $mu$ is finite then clearly $S$ must be bounded which implies it has a finite supremum. We will define the supremum as
$$L = supmu(F) : F textis a sigmatext-finite set for nu$$
Now lets take a sequence $E_n_1^infty$ that are $sigma$-finite with respect to $nu$ and $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ as $nrightarrow infty$. Now let $$E = bigcup_1^inftyE_n$$ then $mu(E) leq L$ since $E$ is a $sigma$-finite set (being a countable union of $sigma$-finite sets). On the other hand, $mu(E)geq mu(E_n)$ for all $n$ and since $mu(E_n)rightarrow L$ then $mu(E) = L$. Now since $mu(E) = L$ then clearly by definition of $L$ we have that $mu(E) > mu(F)$ for all sets $F$ that are $sigma$-finite for $nu$.
So we used hint b.). Now let us work on hint c.).



Now, since $nu|_E$ is $sigma$-finite and $nu|_Ell mu|_E$ we apply the Radon-Nikodym theorem, and so there is $f_1:Erightarrow [0,+infty)$ such that
$$nu(Acap E) =int_Acap E f_1 dmu tag1$$



Now, given any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$, suppose that $mu(F)>0$ and $nu(F) <infty$. Then $Ecup F$ is $sigma$-finite for $nu$, (that is $Ecup F in S$) and
$$mu(Ecup F) =mu(E) +mu( F) > mu(E)=L = sup S$$
Contradiction.



So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,
we have two cases:




  1. $mu(F) =0$ then, since $nu ll mu$, $nu(F)=0$.

  2. if $mu(F)>0$ then $nu(F)=+infty$.

So, for any measurable set $F$ such that $Fcap E = emptyset$,



$$ nu(F) = int_F +infty chi_E^c dmu $$



That means, for any measurable set $A$,



$$ nu(Acap E^c) = int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu tag2$$



Let $f:X rightarrow [0,+infty]$ be defined as $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for $x in E$ and $f(x)=+infty$ for $x notin E$. From $(1)$ and $(2)$, we have, for any measurable set $A$,
$$nu(A)= nu(Acap E)+ nu(Acap E^c)= int_Acap E f_1 dmu +int_Acap E^c +infty chi_E^c dmu= int_A f dmu$$







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    Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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    – Wolfy
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    In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
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    @user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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    @Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
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    @user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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    Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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    – Wolfy
    Dec 29 '16 at 17:55










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    In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
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    – user82261
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    @user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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    @Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
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    – user82261
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    @user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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– Wolfy
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Hey Ramiro, I am just curious about your intuition with considering the set $S$. I follow everything up until that point, then I get a bit lost.
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– Wolfy
Dec 29 '16 at 17:55












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In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 27 at 0:40





$begingroup$
In the expression for $nu(A)$ in part (a), how are you able to take $sum_n=1^infty$ inside the integral. One can arbitrarily change summations and integrals when the $f_n$'s are non-negative. But in this case, $f_n$ is real valued. By the Dominated Convergence Theorem, don't we need $sum_n=1^infty int_A |f_n| dmu < infty$?
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 27 at 0:40













$begingroup$
@user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
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– Ramiro
Mar 27 at 11:26





$begingroup$
@user82261 In part (a), we assume to have extended $mu$-integrable functions $f_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^+|_X_n = f_ndmu|_X_n$ and extended $mu$-integrable functions $g_n:Xrightarrow [0,infty]$ such that $dnu^-|_X_n = g_ndmu|_X_n$. So $f_n$ and $g_n$ are non-negative functions.
$endgroup$
– Ramiro
Mar 27 at 11:26













$begingroup$
@Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 28 at 2:34




$begingroup$
@Ramiro Right but $h_n$ is a real valued extended $mu-$ integrable function, right? You have used it in the expression where you changed the order of the sum and the integral? Or is that correct way to think about it is to first decompose $h_n$ into $f_n - g_n$, apply the result to each of these, and then combine them back again?
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 28 at 2:34












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@user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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– Ramiro
Mar 28 at 10:26




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@user82261 We first decompose $h_n$. I have edited the steps to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any further question.
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– Ramiro
Mar 28 at 10:26

















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