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Example of not smooth morphisim


Smoothness over a field and regularityHow close is the analogy between regular systems of parameters and smooth coordinate charts?Showing a ring is a discrete valuation ringLocalization of a polynomial ring at a maximal idealThe local ring of the generic point of a prime divisorWhen is localization a quotient?local ring of a smooth pointSmooth scheme of finite type over a field, some questionsKatz & Mazur Definition of smooth curvesSmooth affine varieties are normal













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I am trying to prove an exercise in Hartshorne's. Let $k_0$ be a field of characteristic $p>0$, let $k=k_0(t)$, and let $Xsubseteq A_k^2$ be a curve defined by $y^2=x^p-t$. Show that every local ring on $X$ is a regular local ring but $X$ is not smooth over $k$.



For the first statement, a local ring on a point $q$ should be the localization of ring $mathcalO_X$, i.e. $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)_q$. And a maximal ideal correspondes to a irreducible polynomial in $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)$, thus, it is regular local ring.



For the second statement, notice that $0=d(y^2-x^p+t)=2dy-px^p-1dx=2dy$, so $Omega_X/k=0$. But $f$ has relative dimension 1, and we conclude that $f$ is not smooth.



I am not sure whether my argument is right. I hope someone can point out my mistake if there is any.










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    I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
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    @Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
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    Mar 29 at 15:43











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    $ y^2' = 2y $ .
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    – Youngsu
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    Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
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    If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
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    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 23:11















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I am trying to prove an exercise in Hartshorne's. Let $k_0$ be a field of characteristic $p>0$, let $k=k_0(t)$, and let $Xsubseteq A_k^2$ be a curve defined by $y^2=x^p-t$. Show that every local ring on $X$ is a regular local ring but $X$ is not smooth over $k$.



For the first statement, a local ring on a point $q$ should be the localization of ring $mathcalO_X$, i.e. $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)_q$. And a maximal ideal correspondes to a irreducible polynomial in $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)$, thus, it is regular local ring.



For the second statement, notice that $0=d(y^2-x^p+t)=2dy-px^p-1dx=2dy$, so $Omega_X/k=0$. But $f$ has relative dimension 1, and we conclude that $f$ is not smooth.



I am not sure whether my argument is right. I hope someone can point out my mistake if there is any.










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 13:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
    $endgroup$
    – Yuyi Zhang
    Mar 29 at 15:43











  • $begingroup$
    $ y^2' = 2y $ .
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:17










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 23:11













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I am trying to prove an exercise in Hartshorne's. Let $k_0$ be a field of characteristic $p>0$, let $k=k_0(t)$, and let $Xsubseteq A_k^2$ be a curve defined by $y^2=x^p-t$. Show that every local ring on $X$ is a regular local ring but $X$ is not smooth over $k$.



For the first statement, a local ring on a point $q$ should be the localization of ring $mathcalO_X$, i.e. $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)_q$. And a maximal ideal correspondes to a irreducible polynomial in $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)$, thus, it is regular local ring.



For the second statement, notice that $0=d(y^2-x^p+t)=2dy-px^p-1dx=2dy$, so $Omega_X/k=0$. But $f$ has relative dimension 1, and we conclude that $f$ is not smooth.



I am not sure whether my argument is right. I hope someone can point out my mistake if there is any.










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$




I am trying to prove an exercise in Hartshorne's. Let $k_0$ be a field of characteristic $p>0$, let $k=k_0(t)$, and let $Xsubseteq A_k^2$ be a curve defined by $y^2=x^p-t$. Show that every local ring on $X$ is a regular local ring but $X$ is not smooth over $k$.



For the first statement, a local ring on a point $q$ should be the localization of ring $mathcalO_X$, i.e. $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)_q$. And a maximal ideal correspondes to a irreducible polynomial in $(k[x,y]/y^2-x^p+t)$, thus, it is regular local ring.



For the second statement, notice that $0=d(y^2-x^p+t)=2dy-px^p-1dx=2dy$, so $Omega_X/k=0$. But $f$ has relative dimension 1, and we conclude that $f$ is not smooth.



I am not sure whether my argument is right. I hope someone can point out my mistake if there is any.







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  • $begingroup$
    I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 13:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
    $endgroup$
    – Yuyi Zhang
    Mar 29 at 15:43











  • $begingroup$
    $ y^2' = 2y $ .
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:17










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 23:11
















  • $begingroup$
    I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 13:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
    $endgroup$
    – Yuyi Zhang
    Mar 29 at 15:43











  • $begingroup$
    $ y^2' = 2y $ .
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:17










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
    $endgroup$
    – Youngsu
    Mar 29 at 16:19










  • $begingroup$
    If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mohan
    Mar 29 at 23:11















$begingroup$
I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
$endgroup$
– Mohan
Mar 29 at 13:28




$begingroup$
I think you are making a mistake when you say $Omega_X/k=0$, please check the definition.
$endgroup$
– Mohan
Mar 29 at 13:28












$begingroup$
@Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
$endgroup$
– Yuyi Zhang
Mar 29 at 15:43





$begingroup$
@Mohan - Actually I don't know how to compute $Omega_X/k$ explictly, and I hope someone could help me. It only need to show that $dim_k Omega_X/k=0$, and then the conclusion still follows.
$endgroup$
– Yuyi Zhang
Mar 29 at 15:43













$begingroup$
$ y^2' = 2y $ .
$endgroup$
– Youngsu
Mar 29 at 16:17




$begingroup$
$ y^2' = 2y $ .
$endgroup$
– Youngsu
Mar 29 at 16:17












$begingroup$
Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
$endgroup$
– Youngsu
Mar 29 at 16:19




$begingroup$
Sorry for the ugly shape of the formula. I needed to put at least 15 characters.
$endgroup$
– Youngsu
Mar 29 at 16:19












$begingroup$
If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
$endgroup$
– Mohan
Mar 29 at 23:11




$begingroup$
If you have a curve $X$ defined as $f(x,y)=0$ (valid more generally), the exact sequence for 1-forms is, with $R=k[x,y]$, $Rfto R/f dxoplus R/f dyto |Omega_X/kto 0$, where the left map is $fmapsto df=f_xdx+f_ydy$. In your case, $f_x=0, f_y=2y$ and so, $Omega_X/k=R/f dxoplus R/(f,2y) dy$.
$endgroup$
– Mohan
Mar 29 at 23:11










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