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Construction of $sqrtab$ user ruler and compass [duplicate]



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Compass-and-straightedge construction of the square root of a given line?Are there numbers that we can't get with a usual compass and ruler, but can get with 3D compass and ruler?Straightedge-only construction of segment of length $sqrt7$, given regular hexagon with unit sidesRelation between sqrt and ratio in ruler and compass?How to construct an n-gon by ruler and compass?Ruler and compass questionconstructions using only compass and rulerconstruction with compass and rulerA problem of maximum with ruler and compass.Compass and ruler constructionRuler and compass construction










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Q. Given two line segments of length a and b.
Draw a line segment of length $sqrtab$ using a ruler and compass.



I didn't get any idea how to approach to the solution.










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  • Compass-and-straightedge construction of the square root of a given line?

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Q. Given two line segments of length a and b.
Draw a line segment of length $sqrtab$ using a ruler and compass.



I didn't get any idea how to approach to the solution.










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marked as duplicate by Jaap Scherphuis, Lord Shark the Unknown, Trần Thúc Minh Trí, Javi, Théophile Apr 3 at 16:34


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Q. Given two line segments of length a and b.
Draw a line segment of length $sqrtab$ using a ruler and compass.



I didn't get any idea how to approach to the solution.










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  • Compass-and-straightedge construction of the square root of a given line?

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Q. Given two line segments of length a and b.
Draw a line segment of length $sqrtab$ using a ruler and compass.



I didn't get any idea how to approach to the solution.





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marked as duplicate by Jaap Scherphuis, Lord Shark the Unknown, Trần Thúc Minh Trí, Javi, Théophile Apr 3 at 16:34


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marked as duplicate by Jaap Scherphuis, Lord Shark the Unknown, Trần Thúc Minh Trí, Javi, Théophile Apr 3 at 16:34


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  • $begingroup$
    Lines have infinite length. You mean segments (or line segments).
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    – steven gregory
    Apr 2 at 10:56










  • $begingroup$
    Take a look at math.stackexchange.com/q/708
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    – Jean Marie
    Apr 2 at 13:56
















  • $begingroup$
    Lines have infinite length. You mean segments (or line segments).
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    – steven gregory
    Apr 2 at 10:56










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    Take a look at math.stackexchange.com/q/708
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    – Jean Marie
    Apr 2 at 13:56















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Lines have infinite length. You mean segments (or line segments).
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– steven gregory
Apr 2 at 10:56




$begingroup$
Lines have infinite length. You mean segments (or line segments).
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– steven gregory
Apr 2 at 10:56












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Take a look at math.stackexchange.com/q/708
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– Jean Marie
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Let the base of the large triangle be $a+b$, and the height $h$. By similarity of the small triangles,



$$frac ha=frac bh$$ so that $$h=sqrtab.$$



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    Draw a line of length $a+b$. Construct the perpendicular line in the point they joint. The semicircle over $a+b$ cuts that perpendicular. Now the distance between that point and the joining point is $sqrtab$ due to Euclid.






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      If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
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      See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
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      The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
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      Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
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      Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
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    Join segments of length a and length b together on the same line. Call where they join Point J. Call their Midpoint M. Construct a circle centered at M through either end point of a+b. Construct a line perpendicular to a+b through point J. Call where it intersects the circle point Q. The length of QJ is $sqrtab$ as proven elsewhere. These above constructions follow from Euclid's postulates I, III, SAS, and ASA. So the constructions should be valid in neutral geometry.



    A related approach. Construct a rectangle having one sidelength a and one side length b. Find a square having the same area as the starting rectangle. The side length of thes square will be $sqrtab$.






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      Let the base of the large triangle be $a+b$, and the height $h$. By similarity of the small triangles,



      $$frac ha=frac bh$$ so that $$h=sqrtab.$$



      enter image description here






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        $begingroup$

        Let the base of the large triangle be $a+b$, and the height $h$. By similarity of the small triangles,



        $$frac ha=frac bh$$ so that $$h=sqrtab.$$



        enter image description here






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          $begingroup$

          Let the base of the large triangle be $a+b$, and the height $h$. By similarity of the small triangles,



          $$frac ha=frac bh$$ so that $$h=sqrtab.$$



          enter image description here






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          Let the base of the large triangle be $a+b$, and the height $h$. By similarity of the small triangles,



          $$frac ha=frac bh$$ so that $$h=sqrtab.$$



          enter image description here







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              $begingroup$

              Draw a line of length $a+b$. Construct the perpendicular line in the point they joint. The semicircle over $a+b$ cuts that perpendicular. Now the distance between that point and the joining point is $sqrtab$ due to Euclid.






              share|cite|improve this answer









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              • $begingroup$
                If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
                $endgroup$
                – user579689
                Apr 2 at 11:16










              • $begingroup$
                See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 11:29










              • $begingroup$
                The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:53










              • $begingroup$
                Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 13:56










              • $begingroup$
                Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:58















              0












              $begingroup$

              Draw a line of length $a+b$. Construct the perpendicular line in the point they joint. The semicircle over $a+b$ cuts that perpendicular. Now the distance between that point and the joining point is $sqrtab$ due to Euclid.






              share|cite|improve this answer









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              • $begingroup$
                If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
                $endgroup$
                – user579689
                Apr 2 at 11:16










              • $begingroup$
                See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 11:29










              • $begingroup$
                The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:53










              • $begingroup$
                Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 13:56










              • $begingroup$
                Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:58













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              $begingroup$

              Draw a line of length $a+b$. Construct the perpendicular line in the point they joint. The semicircle over $a+b$ cuts that perpendicular. Now the distance between that point and the joining point is $sqrtab$ due to Euclid.






              share|cite|improve this answer









              $endgroup$



              Draw a line of length $a+b$. Construct the perpendicular line in the point they joint. The semicircle over $a+b$ cuts that perpendicular. Now the distance between that point and the joining point is $sqrtab$ due to Euclid.







              share|cite|improve this answer












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              answered Apr 2 at 11:02









              Michael HoppeMichael Hoppe

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              • $begingroup$
                If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
                $endgroup$
                – user579689
                Apr 2 at 11:16










              • $begingroup$
                See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 11:29










              • $begingroup$
                The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:53










              • $begingroup$
                Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 13:56










              • $begingroup$
                Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:58
















              • $begingroup$
                If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
                $endgroup$
                – user579689
                Apr 2 at 11:16










              • $begingroup$
                See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 11:29










              • $begingroup$
                The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:53










              • $begingroup$
                Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
                $endgroup$
                – Michael Hoppe
                Apr 2 at 13:56










              • $begingroup$
                Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
                $endgroup$
                – Jean Marie
                Apr 2 at 13:58















              $begingroup$
              If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
              $endgroup$
              – user579689
              Apr 2 at 11:16




              $begingroup$
              If you don't mind , Can you show it analytically please??
              $endgroup$
              – user579689
              Apr 2 at 11:16












              $begingroup$
              See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
              $endgroup$
              – Michael Hoppe
              Apr 2 at 11:29




              $begingroup$
              See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_mean_theorem, please.
              $endgroup$
              – Michael Hoppe
              Apr 2 at 11:29












              $begingroup$
              The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
              $endgroup$
              – Jean Marie
              Apr 2 at 13:53




              $begingroup$
              The word "diameter" is maybe missing in "The semi-circle over"
              $endgroup$
              – Jean Marie
              Apr 2 at 13:53












              $begingroup$
              Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
              $endgroup$
              – Michael Hoppe
              Apr 2 at 13:56




              $begingroup$
              Being not a native speaker of the English language: What is ambiguous in the phrase "semicircle over a line segment"?
              $endgroup$
              – Michael Hoppe
              Apr 2 at 13:56












              $begingroup$
              Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
              $endgroup$
              – Jean Marie
              Apr 2 at 13:58




              $begingroup$
              Nothing ambiguous... Don't bother with my remark.
              $endgroup$
              – Jean Marie
              Apr 2 at 13:58











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              $begingroup$

              Join segments of length a and length b together on the same line. Call where they join Point J. Call their Midpoint M. Construct a circle centered at M through either end point of a+b. Construct a line perpendicular to a+b through point J. Call where it intersects the circle point Q. The length of QJ is $sqrtab$ as proven elsewhere. These above constructions follow from Euclid's postulates I, III, SAS, and ASA. So the constructions should be valid in neutral geometry.



              A related approach. Construct a rectangle having one sidelength a and one side length b. Find a square having the same area as the starting rectangle. The side length of thes square will be $sqrtab$.






              share|cite|improve this answer









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                $begingroup$

                Join segments of length a and length b together on the same line. Call where they join Point J. Call their Midpoint M. Construct a circle centered at M through either end point of a+b. Construct a line perpendicular to a+b through point J. Call where it intersects the circle point Q. The length of QJ is $sqrtab$ as proven elsewhere. These above constructions follow from Euclid's postulates I, III, SAS, and ASA. So the constructions should be valid in neutral geometry.



                A related approach. Construct a rectangle having one sidelength a and one side length b. Find a square having the same area as the starting rectangle. The side length of thes square will be $sqrtab$.






                share|cite|improve this answer









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                  Join segments of length a and length b together on the same line. Call where they join Point J. Call their Midpoint M. Construct a circle centered at M through either end point of a+b. Construct a line perpendicular to a+b through point J. Call where it intersects the circle point Q. The length of QJ is $sqrtab$ as proven elsewhere. These above constructions follow from Euclid's postulates I, III, SAS, and ASA. So the constructions should be valid in neutral geometry.



                  A related approach. Construct a rectangle having one sidelength a and one side length b. Find a square having the same area as the starting rectangle. The side length of thes square will be $sqrtab$.






                  share|cite|improve this answer









                  $endgroup$



                  Join segments of length a and length b together on the same line. Call where they join Point J. Call their Midpoint M. Construct a circle centered at M through either end point of a+b. Construct a line perpendicular to a+b through point J. Call where it intersects the circle point Q. The length of QJ is $sqrtab$ as proven elsewhere. These above constructions follow from Euclid's postulates I, III, SAS, and ASA. So the constructions should be valid in neutral geometry.



                  A related approach. Construct a rectangle having one sidelength a and one side length b. Find a square having the same area as the starting rectangle. The side length of thes square will be $sqrtab$.







                  share|cite|improve this answer












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