All the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point outside the fixed line; also passes through another fixed point Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Why do all circles passing through $a$ and $1/bara$ meet $|z|=1$ are right angles?Let $y=x^2+ax+b$ cuts the coordinate axes at three distinct points. Show that the circle passing through these 3 points also passes through $(0,1)$.Construct a circle passing through a point $X$, which is externally tangent to two given circlesConstruct a line through 2 circles with equal length in each circle going through a common pointFind the Point Through which the Variable Line PassesFind the equation of the line through the point $(1,-1)$Prove that the chord always passes through a fixed pointThe difference between the radii of the largest and smallest circles having centres on the circumference of $x^2+2x+y^2+4y=4$Line always passes through a fixed point for some parametersProve that $d$ passes through a fixed point.
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All the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point outside the fixed line; also passes through another fixed point
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)Why do all circles passing through $a$ and $1/bara$ meet $|z|=1$ are right angles?Let $y=x^2+ax+b$ cuts the coordinate axes at three distinct points. Show that the circle passing through these 3 points also passes through $(0,1)$.Construct a circle passing through a point $X$, which is externally tangent to two given circlesConstruct a line through 2 circles with equal length in each circle going through a common pointFind the Point Through which the Variable Line PassesFind the equation of the line through the point $(1,-1)$Prove that the chord always passes through a fixed pointThe difference between the radii of the largest and smallest circles having centres on the circumference of $x^2+2x+y^2+4y=4$Line always passes through a fixed point for some parametersProve that $d$ passes through a fixed point.
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Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point (not lying on the fixed line) also passes through another fixed point.
My attempt- Let the fixed line be $y=mx+c$ let the fixed point be $P:(h,k)$. Now equation of any circle with center in the line $y=mx+c$ will look like
$(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2$ with the conditions $b=ma+c$ and $(h-a)^2+(k-b)^2=r^2$ .I am stuck here.
Geometric solutions are welcome , but I am looking for an analytical solution.
geometry analytic-geometry circles
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Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point (not lying on the fixed line) also passes through another fixed point.
My attempt- Let the fixed line be $y=mx+c$ let the fixed point be $P:(h,k)$. Now equation of any circle with center in the line $y=mx+c$ will look like
$(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2$ with the conditions $b=ma+c$ and $(h-a)^2+(k-b)^2=r^2$ .I am stuck here.
Geometric solutions are welcome , but I am looking for an analytical solution.
geometry analytic-geometry circles
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Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
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I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
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– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
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You mean the mirror image?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
1
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Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
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– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
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Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
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– Nominal Animal
Oct 24 '16 at 10:52
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show 5 more comments
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Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point (not lying on the fixed line) also passes through another fixed point.
My attempt- Let the fixed line be $y=mx+c$ let the fixed point be $P:(h,k)$. Now equation of any circle with center in the line $y=mx+c$ will look like
$(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2$ with the conditions $b=ma+c$ and $(h-a)^2+(k-b)^2=r^2$ .I am stuck here.
Geometric solutions are welcome , but I am looking for an analytical solution.
geometry analytic-geometry circles
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Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and passing thorugh a fixed point (not lying on the fixed line) also passes through another fixed point.
My attempt- Let the fixed line be $y=mx+c$ let the fixed point be $P:(h,k)$. Now equation of any circle with center in the line $y=mx+c$ will look like
$(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2$ with the conditions $b=ma+c$ and $(h-a)^2+(k-b)^2=r^2$ .I am stuck here.
Geometric solutions are welcome , but I am looking for an analytical solution.
geometry analytic-geometry circles
geometry analytic-geometry circles
edited Oct 24 '16 at 19:34
Babai
asked Oct 24 '16 at 10:15
BabaiBabai
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Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
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I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
$begingroup$
You mean the mirror image?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
1
$begingroup$
Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
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– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
2
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Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
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– Nominal Animal
Oct 24 '16 at 10:52
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Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
$begingroup$
I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
$begingroup$
You mean the mirror image?
$endgroup$
– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
1
$begingroup$
Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
2
$begingroup$
Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
$endgroup$
– Nominal Animal
Oct 24 '16 at 10:52
1
1
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Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
$endgroup$
– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
$begingroup$
Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
$endgroup$
– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
$begingroup$
I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
$begingroup$
I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
$begingroup$
You mean the mirror image?
$endgroup$
– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
$begingroup$
You mean the mirror image?
$endgroup$
– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
1
1
$begingroup$
Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
$begingroup$
Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
2
2
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Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
$endgroup$
– Nominal Animal
Oct 24 '16 at 10:52
$begingroup$
Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
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Although $(R,h)$ are variable, difference of their squared distances $ (R^2-h^2)= $ should be constant $a^2$ as shown in the picture following.
So with every fixed point A1 there is a corresponding fixed point A2 mirrored about $x-$ axis.
$$ (x-h)^2+ y^2 = h^2 + a^2 ,or quad x^2-2xh +y^2 = a^2 tag1 $$
where $h$ is variable point $B$ is moving on x-axis and $a$ is constant. The above circle with $B$ as center is now drawn in black.
EDIT1:
Points $(A1,A2),(OA1=OA2=a)$ are singular points, meaning all circles pass through them. They are obtained as singular solutions of DE derived by partial differentiation with respect
to $h$ and eliminating it from 1)
$$ x^2-2 x,h +y^2=a^2, rightarrow x =0 rightarrow y= pm a tag2 $$
The distance $OA$ in fact serves as one among two bipolar $sigma$ isosurface /coordinates.
EDIT2
Please note that, if you had asked:
Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and whose tangents pass through a fixed point , lying on that fixed line must have another tangent passing through this fixed point,
then the constant in this case gets its sign simply changed to $ (h^2-R^2)= a^2 $ when we are now switching to their orthogonal trajectories:
$tau $ isosurface /coordinates
which have equi-tangent constant lengths $=a$ circles of equation
$$ x^2+y^2-2 x h -R^2= a^2 tag3 $$
I have included this as your preference is for the analytical approach. But do not lose the geometrical connection!
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The given line $ell$ is a symmetry axis for each of these circles. Therefore all of them will go through the point $P'$ obtained from reflecting $P$ in $ell$.
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add a comment |
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Set up an orthonormal coordinate system so that the fixed line is the $x$-axis and the point $P$ lies on the $y$-axis. That is, the equation of the line is $y = 0$ and $P = (0,y_P).$
This is always possible to do. Even if the line and point have already been given in terms of some other coordinates, you can transform the coordinates to the desired form.
Now the equation of the radius of the circle with center $(0,x)$ is
$r^2 = x^2 + y_P^2.$
But $x^2 + y_P^2 = x^2 + (-y_P)^2,$
that is, if $(0,y_P)$ lies on the circle then so does $(0,-y_P)$.
But we are given that $(0,y_P)$ lies on every circle, and therefore so does $(0,-y_P)$.
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$begingroup$
Although $(R,h)$ are variable, difference of their squared distances $ (R^2-h^2)= $ should be constant $a^2$ as shown in the picture following.
So with every fixed point A1 there is a corresponding fixed point A2 mirrored about $x-$ axis.
$$ (x-h)^2+ y^2 = h^2 + a^2 ,or quad x^2-2xh +y^2 = a^2 tag1 $$
where $h$ is variable point $B$ is moving on x-axis and $a$ is constant. The above circle with $B$ as center is now drawn in black.
EDIT1:
Points $(A1,A2),(OA1=OA2=a)$ are singular points, meaning all circles pass through them. They are obtained as singular solutions of DE derived by partial differentiation with respect
to $h$ and eliminating it from 1)
$$ x^2-2 x,h +y^2=a^2, rightarrow x =0 rightarrow y= pm a tag2 $$
The distance $OA$ in fact serves as one among two bipolar $sigma$ isosurface /coordinates.
EDIT2
Please note that, if you had asked:
Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and whose tangents pass through a fixed point , lying on that fixed line must have another tangent passing through this fixed point,
then the constant in this case gets its sign simply changed to $ (h^2-R^2)= a^2 $ when we are now switching to their orthogonal trajectories:
$tau $ isosurface /coordinates
which have equi-tangent constant lengths $=a$ circles of equation
$$ x^2+y^2-2 x h -R^2= a^2 tag3 $$
I have included this as your preference is for the analytical approach. But do not lose the geometrical connection!
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Although $(R,h)$ are variable, difference of their squared distances $ (R^2-h^2)= $ should be constant $a^2$ as shown in the picture following.
So with every fixed point A1 there is a corresponding fixed point A2 mirrored about $x-$ axis.
$$ (x-h)^2+ y^2 = h^2 + a^2 ,or quad x^2-2xh +y^2 = a^2 tag1 $$
where $h$ is variable point $B$ is moving on x-axis and $a$ is constant. The above circle with $B$ as center is now drawn in black.
EDIT1:
Points $(A1,A2),(OA1=OA2=a)$ are singular points, meaning all circles pass through them. They are obtained as singular solutions of DE derived by partial differentiation with respect
to $h$ and eliminating it from 1)
$$ x^2-2 x,h +y^2=a^2, rightarrow x =0 rightarrow y= pm a tag2 $$
The distance $OA$ in fact serves as one among two bipolar $sigma$ isosurface /coordinates.
EDIT2
Please note that, if you had asked:
Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and whose tangents pass through a fixed point , lying on that fixed line must have another tangent passing through this fixed point,
then the constant in this case gets its sign simply changed to $ (h^2-R^2)= a^2 $ when we are now switching to their orthogonal trajectories:
$tau $ isosurface /coordinates
which have equi-tangent constant lengths $=a$ circles of equation
$$ x^2+y^2-2 x h -R^2= a^2 tag3 $$
I have included this as your preference is for the analytical approach. But do not lose the geometrical connection!
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Although $(R,h)$ are variable, difference of their squared distances $ (R^2-h^2)= $ should be constant $a^2$ as shown in the picture following.
So with every fixed point A1 there is a corresponding fixed point A2 mirrored about $x-$ axis.
$$ (x-h)^2+ y^2 = h^2 + a^2 ,or quad x^2-2xh +y^2 = a^2 tag1 $$
where $h$ is variable point $B$ is moving on x-axis and $a$ is constant. The above circle with $B$ as center is now drawn in black.
EDIT1:
Points $(A1,A2),(OA1=OA2=a)$ are singular points, meaning all circles pass through them. They are obtained as singular solutions of DE derived by partial differentiation with respect
to $h$ and eliminating it from 1)
$$ x^2-2 x,h +y^2=a^2, rightarrow x =0 rightarrow y= pm a tag2 $$
The distance $OA$ in fact serves as one among two bipolar $sigma$ isosurface /coordinates.
EDIT2
Please note that, if you had asked:
Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and whose tangents pass through a fixed point , lying on that fixed line must have another tangent passing through this fixed point,
then the constant in this case gets its sign simply changed to $ (h^2-R^2)= a^2 $ when we are now switching to their orthogonal trajectories:
$tau $ isosurface /coordinates
which have equi-tangent constant lengths $=a$ circles of equation
$$ x^2+y^2-2 x h -R^2= a^2 tag3 $$
I have included this as your preference is for the analytical approach. But do not lose the geometrical connection!
$endgroup$
Although $(R,h)$ are variable, difference of their squared distances $ (R^2-h^2)= $ should be constant $a^2$ as shown in the picture following.
So with every fixed point A1 there is a corresponding fixed point A2 mirrored about $x-$ axis.
$$ (x-h)^2+ y^2 = h^2 + a^2 ,or quad x^2-2xh +y^2 = a^2 tag1 $$
where $h$ is variable point $B$ is moving on x-axis and $a$ is constant. The above circle with $B$ as center is now drawn in black.
EDIT1:
Points $(A1,A2),(OA1=OA2=a)$ are singular points, meaning all circles pass through them. They are obtained as singular solutions of DE derived by partial differentiation with respect
to $h$ and eliminating it from 1)
$$ x^2-2 x,h +y^2=a^2, rightarrow x =0 rightarrow y= pm a tag2 $$
The distance $OA$ in fact serves as one among two bipolar $sigma$ isosurface /coordinates.
EDIT2
Please note that, if you had asked:
Prove that all the circles having centres on a fixed line and whose tangents pass through a fixed point , lying on that fixed line must have another tangent passing through this fixed point,
then the constant in this case gets its sign simply changed to $ (h^2-R^2)= a^2 $ when we are now switching to their orthogonal trajectories:
$tau $ isosurface /coordinates
which have equi-tangent constant lengths $=a$ circles of equation
$$ x^2+y^2-2 x h -R^2= a^2 tag3 $$
I have included this as your preference is for the analytical approach. But do not lose the geometrical connection!
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answered Oct 24 '16 at 11:06
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The given line $ell$ is a symmetry axis for each of these circles. Therefore all of them will go through the point $P'$ obtained from reflecting $P$ in $ell$.
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The given line $ell$ is a symmetry axis for each of these circles. Therefore all of them will go through the point $P'$ obtained from reflecting $P$ in $ell$.
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$begingroup$
The given line $ell$ is a symmetry axis for each of these circles. Therefore all of them will go through the point $P'$ obtained from reflecting $P$ in $ell$.
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The given line $ell$ is a symmetry axis for each of these circles. Therefore all of them will go through the point $P'$ obtained from reflecting $P$ in $ell$.
answered Oct 24 '16 at 15:38
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Set up an orthonormal coordinate system so that the fixed line is the $x$-axis and the point $P$ lies on the $y$-axis. That is, the equation of the line is $y = 0$ and $P = (0,y_P).$
This is always possible to do. Even if the line and point have already been given in terms of some other coordinates, you can transform the coordinates to the desired form.
Now the equation of the radius of the circle with center $(0,x)$ is
$r^2 = x^2 + y_P^2.$
But $x^2 + y_P^2 = x^2 + (-y_P)^2,$
that is, if $(0,y_P)$ lies on the circle then so does $(0,-y_P)$.
But we are given that $(0,y_P)$ lies on every circle, and therefore so does $(0,-y_P)$.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Set up an orthonormal coordinate system so that the fixed line is the $x$-axis and the point $P$ lies on the $y$-axis. That is, the equation of the line is $y = 0$ and $P = (0,y_P).$
This is always possible to do. Even if the line and point have already been given in terms of some other coordinates, you can transform the coordinates to the desired form.
Now the equation of the radius of the circle with center $(0,x)$ is
$r^2 = x^2 + y_P^2.$
But $x^2 + y_P^2 = x^2 + (-y_P)^2,$
that is, if $(0,y_P)$ lies on the circle then so does $(0,-y_P)$.
But we are given that $(0,y_P)$ lies on every circle, and therefore so does $(0,-y_P)$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Set up an orthonormal coordinate system so that the fixed line is the $x$-axis and the point $P$ lies on the $y$-axis. That is, the equation of the line is $y = 0$ and $P = (0,y_P).$
This is always possible to do. Even if the line and point have already been given in terms of some other coordinates, you can transform the coordinates to the desired form.
Now the equation of the radius of the circle with center $(0,x)$ is
$r^2 = x^2 + y_P^2.$
But $x^2 + y_P^2 = x^2 + (-y_P)^2,$
that is, if $(0,y_P)$ lies on the circle then so does $(0,-y_P)$.
But we are given that $(0,y_P)$ lies on every circle, and therefore so does $(0,-y_P)$.
$endgroup$
Set up an orthonormal coordinate system so that the fixed line is the $x$-axis and the point $P$ lies on the $y$-axis. That is, the equation of the line is $y = 0$ and $P = (0,y_P).$
This is always possible to do. Even if the line and point have already been given in terms of some other coordinates, you can transform the coordinates to the desired form.
Now the equation of the radius of the circle with center $(0,x)$ is
$r^2 = x^2 + y_P^2.$
But $x^2 + y_P^2 = x^2 + (-y_P)^2,$
that is, if $(0,y_P)$ lies on the circle then so does $(0,-y_P)$.
But we are given that $(0,y_P)$ lies on every circle, and therefore so does $(0,-y_P)$.
answered Sep 28 '18 at 16:07
David KDavid K
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Try geometrically. Draw a straight line and a point, and draw 5 different circles having center on the line. Can you see any pattern?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:18
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I have a feeling it is the image of the fixed point along the fixed line.
$endgroup$
– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:20
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You mean the mirror image?
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– 5xum
Oct 24 '16 at 10:21
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Yes, taking the fixed line as the mirror
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– Babai
Oct 24 '16 at 10:22
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Find the location of the other fixed point. Then you can easily show that the distance from one fixed point to a point on the line is always the same as the distance from that point on the line to the other fixed point.
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– Nominal Animal
Oct 24 '16 at 10:52