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A problem related to circle , altitude , triangle.



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InFinding value of an angle in a triangle.In △ABC, median AM = 17, altitude AD = 15 and the circum-radius R = 10. Find BC^2A circle is inscribed in sector of another bigger circle.Given A(circle) find the A(triangle formed by the center and the endpoints of the sector).In $triangle ABC$, I is the incenter. Area of $triangle IBC = 28$, area of $triangle ICA= 30$ and area of $triangle IAB = 26$. Find $AC^2 − AB^2$Given the length of two altitudes and one side , find the area of triangle.problem about Circumscribed circle of triangleGeometry: Finding the length of a segment formed in a circle-tangent problemFind the area of the circle inscribed in the smaller part of the sectorThe Problem of Triangle in GeometryFind the minimal length of a right triangle with altitude 1










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Consider a $triangle ABC.$ Draw circle $S$ such that it touches side $AB$ at $A$. This circle
passes through point $C$ and intersects segment $BC$ at $E.$



If Altitude $AD =frac21(sqrt3−1)sqrt2;$
and $;angle EAB = 15^circ,$ find AC.



Here is a sketch that I made:
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Here , we can calculate AC by Pythagorean theorem if we find DC . This is where I'm stuck . How can I utilize the information that angle EAB is 15 deg ?



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Consider a $triangle ABC.$ Draw circle $S$ such that it touches side $AB$ at $A$. This circle
passes through point $C$ and intersects segment $BC$ at $E.$



If Altitude $AD =frac21(sqrt3−1)sqrt2;$
and $;angle EAB = 15^circ,$ find AC.



Here is a sketch that I made:
sketch



Here , we can calculate AC by Pythagorean theorem if we find DC . This is where I'm stuck . How can I utilize the information that angle EAB is 15 deg ?



(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )










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Consider a $triangle ABC.$ Draw circle $S$ such that it touches side $AB$ at $A$. This circle
passes through point $C$ and intersects segment $BC$ at $E.$



If Altitude $AD =frac21(sqrt3−1)sqrt2;$
and $;angle EAB = 15^circ,$ find AC.



Here is a sketch that I made:
sketch



Here , we can calculate AC by Pythagorean theorem if we find DC . This is where I'm stuck . How can I utilize the information that angle EAB is 15 deg ?



(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )










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Consider a $triangle ABC.$ Draw circle $S$ such that it touches side $AB$ at $A$. This circle
passes through point $C$ and intersects segment $BC$ at $E.$



If Altitude $AD =frac21(sqrt3−1)sqrt2;$
and $;angle EAB = 15^circ,$ find AC.



Here is a sketch that I made:
sketch



Here , we can calculate AC by Pythagorean theorem if we find DC . This is where I'm stuck . How can I utilize the information that angle EAB is 15 deg ?



(This is not class-homework , I'm solving sample questions for a competitive exam )







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As user2345215 pointed out in a comment, a key point to this question is the fact that the circle touches $AB$ in $A$. So it isn't a mere intersection but instead a tangentiality. Even with this stronger constraint, the configuration isn't fully determined. If you fix $A$ and $D$, you can still move $B$ on the line $BD$. But $C$ isn't affected by changes to $B$'s position.



Illustration



So given $A, D, B$ with a right angle at $D$, how can you construct the rest? You can use $measuredangle EAB=15°$ to construct the line $AE$, and intersecting that with $BD$ you get $E$. Then you can construct the perpendicular bisector of $AE$ since any circle which passes through $A$ and $E$ has to have its center on that bisector. You can also construct a line through $A$ and orthogonal to $AB$. If the circle touches $AB$ in $A$, its center has to lie on that line. Intersecting these two lines gives you $F$, the center of the circle.



Now take a closer look. $GF$ is perpendicular to $AE$, and $AF$ is perpendicular to $AB$. Since $AB$ and $AE$ form an angle of $15°$, so do $AF$ and $GF$. So we have $measuredangle AFG=15°$ and $measuredangle AFE=30°$ Due to the inscribed angle theorem this tells you that $measuredangle ACD=15°$ no matter where you place $B$. So you know that $AD=ACcdotsin15°$ which gives you



$$AC=fracADsin 15°=42$$






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    As user2345215 pointed out in a comment, a key point to this question is the fact that the circle touches $AB$ in $A$. So it isn't a mere intersection but instead a tangentiality. Even with this stronger constraint, the configuration isn't fully determined. If you fix $A$ and $D$, you can still move $B$ on the line $BD$. But $C$ isn't affected by changes to $B$'s position.



    Illustration



    So given $A, D, B$ with a right angle at $D$, how can you construct the rest? You can use $measuredangle EAB=15°$ to construct the line $AE$, and intersecting that with $BD$ you get $E$. Then you can construct the perpendicular bisector of $AE$ since any circle which passes through $A$ and $E$ has to have its center on that bisector. You can also construct a line through $A$ and orthogonal to $AB$. If the circle touches $AB$ in $A$, its center has to lie on that line. Intersecting these two lines gives you $F$, the center of the circle.



    Now take a closer look. $GF$ is perpendicular to $AE$, and $AF$ is perpendicular to $AB$. Since $AB$ and $AE$ form an angle of $15°$, so do $AF$ and $GF$. So we have $measuredangle AFG=15°$ and $measuredangle AFE=30°$ Due to the inscribed angle theorem this tells you that $measuredangle ACD=15°$ no matter where you place $B$. So you know that $AD=ACcdotsin15°$ which gives you



    $$AC=fracADsin 15°=42$$






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      As user2345215 pointed out in a comment, a key point to this question is the fact that the circle touches $AB$ in $A$. So it isn't a mere intersection but instead a tangentiality. Even with this stronger constraint, the configuration isn't fully determined. If you fix $A$ and $D$, you can still move $B$ on the line $BD$. But $C$ isn't affected by changes to $B$'s position.



      Illustration



      So given $A, D, B$ with a right angle at $D$, how can you construct the rest? You can use $measuredangle EAB=15°$ to construct the line $AE$, and intersecting that with $BD$ you get $E$. Then you can construct the perpendicular bisector of $AE$ since any circle which passes through $A$ and $E$ has to have its center on that bisector. You can also construct a line through $A$ and orthogonal to $AB$. If the circle touches $AB$ in $A$, its center has to lie on that line. Intersecting these two lines gives you $F$, the center of the circle.



      Now take a closer look. $GF$ is perpendicular to $AE$, and $AF$ is perpendicular to $AB$. Since $AB$ and $AE$ form an angle of $15°$, so do $AF$ and $GF$. So we have $measuredangle AFG=15°$ and $measuredangle AFE=30°$ Due to the inscribed angle theorem this tells you that $measuredangle ACD=15°$ no matter where you place $B$. So you know that $AD=ACcdotsin15°$ which gives you



      $$AC=fracADsin 15°=42$$






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        As user2345215 pointed out in a comment, a key point to this question is the fact that the circle touches $AB$ in $A$. So it isn't a mere intersection but instead a tangentiality. Even with this stronger constraint, the configuration isn't fully determined. If you fix $A$ and $D$, you can still move $B$ on the line $BD$. But $C$ isn't affected by changes to $B$'s position.



        Illustration



        So given $A, D, B$ with a right angle at $D$, how can you construct the rest? You can use $measuredangle EAB=15°$ to construct the line $AE$, and intersecting that with $BD$ you get $E$. Then you can construct the perpendicular bisector of $AE$ since any circle which passes through $A$ and $E$ has to have its center on that bisector. You can also construct a line through $A$ and orthogonal to $AB$. If the circle touches $AB$ in $A$, its center has to lie on that line. Intersecting these two lines gives you $F$, the center of the circle.



        Now take a closer look. $GF$ is perpendicular to $AE$, and $AF$ is perpendicular to $AB$. Since $AB$ and $AE$ form an angle of $15°$, so do $AF$ and $GF$. So we have $measuredangle AFG=15°$ and $measuredangle AFE=30°$ Due to the inscribed angle theorem this tells you that $measuredangle ACD=15°$ no matter where you place $B$. So you know that $AD=ACcdotsin15°$ which gives you



        $$AC=fracADsin 15°=42$$






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        As user2345215 pointed out in a comment, a key point to this question is the fact that the circle touches $AB$ in $A$. So it isn't a mere intersection but instead a tangentiality. Even with this stronger constraint, the configuration isn't fully determined. If you fix $A$ and $D$, you can still move $B$ on the line $BD$. But $C$ isn't affected by changes to $B$'s position.



        Illustration



        So given $A, D, B$ with a right angle at $D$, how can you construct the rest? You can use $measuredangle EAB=15°$ to construct the line $AE$, and intersecting that with $BD$ you get $E$. Then you can construct the perpendicular bisector of $AE$ since any circle which passes through $A$ and $E$ has to have its center on that bisector. You can also construct a line through $A$ and orthogonal to $AB$. If the circle touches $AB$ in $A$, its center has to lie on that line. Intersecting these two lines gives you $F$, the center of the circle.



        Now take a closer look. $GF$ is perpendicular to $AE$, and $AF$ is perpendicular to $AB$. Since $AB$ and $AE$ form an angle of $15°$, so do $AF$ and $GF$. So we have $measuredangle AFG=15°$ and $measuredangle AFE=30°$ Due to the inscribed angle theorem this tells you that $measuredangle ACD=15°$ no matter where you place $B$. So you know that $AD=ACcdotsin15°$ which gives you



        $$AC=fracADsin 15°=42$$







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