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Integrating Factors - definite with Indefinite integrals



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowCauchy-Schwarz Inequality for Integrals for any two functions clarificationInteresing, hard limit with sum, involving $pi$Help with $int_t_0^t_0+hdelta(t),dt=hdeltaleft(t_0+frac12hright)$Lebesgue integration in one variableCan't find adequate change of variables $y=u^alphax^beta$ for this equation.How to evaluate: $int_0^1x^n-1(1-x)^n+1dx$ODEs explosion timesEvaluate $2iint_-1^1fracoperatornameLi_2(-ix^2)-operatornameLi_2(ix^2)x^2dx$, where $operatornameLi_2(s)$ is the polylogarithmChanging Limits of Integration Rule?Differentiating definite integral seems weird to me.










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I am self-learning ODEs through https://www.simiode.org/resources/3732/download/Granero-Belinchon-CourseDEAndApplications.pdf?451f56d1cb99f142dee7c2d16251bfcb=1.



Consider $P'(t)=-alpha P(t)+f(t), P(0)=P_0in mathbbR$
Clearly, then $fracddt[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = e^int_0^talpha (s)dsf(t)$. However, their next step was to say that this is iff
$[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = int_0^te^int_0^ualpha (s)dsf(u)du+C$ as if the LHS was integrated as an indefinite integral and the RHS as a definite integral. Is this generally possible? If so, how?










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    If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
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    @Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:49










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    You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
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    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:49











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    @Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
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    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:51










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    In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
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    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:52
















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$begingroup$


I am self-learning ODEs through https://www.simiode.org/resources/3732/download/Granero-Belinchon-CourseDEAndApplications.pdf?451f56d1cb99f142dee7c2d16251bfcb=1.



Consider $P'(t)=-alpha P(t)+f(t), P(0)=P_0in mathbbR$
Clearly, then $fracddt[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = e^int_0^talpha (s)dsf(t)$. However, their next step was to say that this is iff
$[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = int_0^te^int_0^ualpha (s)dsf(u)du+C$ as if the LHS was integrated as an indefinite integral and the RHS as a definite integral. Is this generally possible? If so, how?










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:47











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:49










  • $begingroup$
    You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:49











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:51










  • $begingroup$
    In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:52














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$begingroup$


I am self-learning ODEs through https://www.simiode.org/resources/3732/download/Granero-Belinchon-CourseDEAndApplications.pdf?451f56d1cb99f142dee7c2d16251bfcb=1.



Consider $P'(t)=-alpha P(t)+f(t), P(0)=P_0in mathbbR$
Clearly, then $fracddt[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = e^int_0^talpha (s)dsf(t)$. However, their next step was to say that this is iff
$[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = int_0^te^int_0^ualpha (s)dsf(u)du+C$ as if the LHS was integrated as an indefinite integral and the RHS as a definite integral. Is this generally possible? If so, how?










share|cite|improve this question











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I am self-learning ODEs through https://www.simiode.org/resources/3732/download/Granero-Belinchon-CourseDEAndApplications.pdf?451f56d1cb99f142dee7c2d16251bfcb=1.



Consider $P'(t)=-alpha P(t)+f(t), P(0)=P_0in mathbbR$
Clearly, then $fracddt[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = e^int_0^talpha (s)dsf(t)$. However, their next step was to say that this is iff
$[e^int_0^talpha (s) dsP(t)] = int_0^te^int_0^ualpha (s)dsf(u)du+C$ as if the LHS was integrated as an indefinite integral and the RHS as a definite integral. Is this generally possible? If so, how?







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  • $begingroup$
    If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:47











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:49










  • $begingroup$
    You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:49











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:51










  • $begingroup$
    In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:52

















  • $begingroup$
    If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:47











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:49










  • $begingroup$
    You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:49











  • $begingroup$
    @Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
    $endgroup$
    – BayesIsBae
    Mar 28 at 2:51










  • $begingroup$
    In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael
    Mar 28 at 2:52
















$begingroup$
If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:47





$begingroup$
If you like you can add constants $C_1$ to the left and $C_2$ to the right, but you can bring $C_1$ over to make it $C_2-C_1$ on the right. That is the same as just calling it $C$ on the right.
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:47













$begingroup$
@Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 28 at 2:49




$begingroup$
@Michael but is it possible to integrate one side under an indefinite integral whilst the other is definite?
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 28 at 2:49












$begingroup$
You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:49





$begingroup$
You seemed to have changed the question after my comment. As I recall you had a $+C$ somewhere...?
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:49













$begingroup$
@Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 28 at 2:51




$begingroup$
@Michael My bad, there should be a $+C$ on the RHS as I just added
$endgroup$
– BayesIsBae
Mar 28 at 2:51












$begingroup$
In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:52





$begingroup$
In that case my first comment applies. It looks like $C=P(0)$.
$endgroup$
– Michael
Mar 28 at 2:52











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