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The sed, which comes with FreeBSD 11.2 p7, gives:



 $ seq 10 | sed 'N; l; D; p'
1$
2$
2$
3$
3$
4$
4$
5$
5$
6$
6$
7$
7$
8$
8$
9$
9$
10$


While gsed (GNU sed 4.7) gives for the same script:



$ seq 10 | gsed 'N; l; D; p'
1n2$
2n3$
3n4$
4n5$
5n6$
6n7$
7n8$
8n9$
9n10$
10


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    The sed, which comes with FreeBSD 11.2 p7, gives:



     $ seq 10 | sed 'N; l; D; p'
    1$
    2$
    2$
    3$
    3$
    4$
    4$
    5$
    5$
    6$
    6$
    7$
    7$
    8$
    8$
    9$
    9$
    10$


    While gsed (GNU sed 4.7) gives for the same script:



    $ seq 10 | gsed 'N; l; D; p'
    1n2$
    2n3$
    3n4$
    4n5$
    5n6$
    6n7$
    7n8$
    8n9$
    9n10$
    10


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      The sed, which comes with FreeBSD 11.2 p7, gives:



       $ seq 10 | sed 'N; l; D; p'
      1$
      2$
      2$
      3$
      3$
      4$
      4$
      5$
      5$
      6$
      6$
      7$
      7$
      8$
      8$
      9$
      9$
      10$


      While gsed (GNU sed 4.7) gives for the same script:



      $ seq 10 | gsed 'N; l; D; p'
      1n2$
      2n3$
      3n4$
      4n5$
      5n6$
      6n7$
      7n8$
      8n9$
      9n10$
      10


      How can we explain this difference in behavior?










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      The sed, which comes with FreeBSD 11.2 p7, gives:



       $ seq 10 | sed 'N; l; D; p'
      1$
      2$
      2$
      3$
      3$
      4$
      4$
      5$
      5$
      6$
      6$
      7$
      7$
      8$
      8$
      9$
      9$
      10$


      While gsed (GNU sed 4.7) gives for the same script:



      $ seq 10 | gsed 'N; l; D; p'
      1n2$
      2n3$
      3n4$
      4n5$
      5n6$
      6n7$
      7n8$
      8n9$
      9n10$
      10


      How can we explain this difference in behavior?







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          BSD sed, when using l to output characters in a visually unambiguous form, does not output newlines in a visually unambiguous form.



          From sed(1) on OpenBSD:



           [2addr]l
          (The letter ell.) Write the pattern space to the standard output
          in a visually unambiguous form. This form is as follows:

          backslash \
          alert a
          backspace b
          form-feed f
          carriage-return r
          tab t
          vertical tab v


          (note lack of mentioning of newlines).



          GNU sed, however, includes newlines in the set of characters to display unambiguously. It does this as an extension to the set of characters that the POSIX standard for sed mentions (which is the set that BSD sed uses). GNU sed behaves this way even if --posix is used on the command line.



          GNU sed also outputs 10 twice, while BSD sed does not. Running GNU sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT set or with --posix will make it output 10 only once, like BSD sed does.



          This is because GNU sed by default ignores the part of POSIX definition of the sed N command that says




          If no next line of input is available, the N command verb shall branch to the end of the script and quit without starting a new cycle or copying the pattern space to standard output.




          Note also that the p in your sed program never executes, as D starts a new cycle.






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            Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:29












          • @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

            – Kusalananda
            Mar 30 at 17:31











          • Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

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          BSD sed, when using l to output characters in a visually unambiguous form, does not output newlines in a visually unambiguous form.



          From sed(1) on OpenBSD:



           [2addr]l
          (The letter ell.) Write the pattern space to the standard output
          in a visually unambiguous form. This form is as follows:

          backslash \
          alert a
          backspace b
          form-feed f
          carriage-return r
          tab t
          vertical tab v


          (note lack of mentioning of newlines).



          GNU sed, however, includes newlines in the set of characters to display unambiguously. It does this as an extension to the set of characters that the POSIX standard for sed mentions (which is the set that BSD sed uses). GNU sed behaves this way even if --posix is used on the command line.



          GNU sed also outputs 10 twice, while BSD sed does not. Running GNU sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT set or with --posix will make it output 10 only once, like BSD sed does.



          This is because GNU sed by default ignores the part of POSIX definition of the sed N command that says




          If no next line of input is available, the N command verb shall branch to the end of the script and quit without starting a new cycle or copying the pattern space to standard output.




          Note also that the p in your sed program never executes, as D starts a new cycle.






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            Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:29












          • @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

            – Kusalananda
            Mar 30 at 17:31











          • Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:34
















          8














          BSD sed, when using l to output characters in a visually unambiguous form, does not output newlines in a visually unambiguous form.



          From sed(1) on OpenBSD:



           [2addr]l
          (The letter ell.) Write the pattern space to the standard output
          in a visually unambiguous form. This form is as follows:

          backslash \
          alert a
          backspace b
          form-feed f
          carriage-return r
          tab t
          vertical tab v


          (note lack of mentioning of newlines).



          GNU sed, however, includes newlines in the set of characters to display unambiguously. It does this as an extension to the set of characters that the POSIX standard for sed mentions (which is the set that BSD sed uses). GNU sed behaves this way even if --posix is used on the command line.



          GNU sed also outputs 10 twice, while BSD sed does not. Running GNU sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT set or with --posix will make it output 10 only once, like BSD sed does.



          This is because GNU sed by default ignores the part of POSIX definition of the sed N command that says




          If no next line of input is available, the N command verb shall branch to the end of the script and quit without starting a new cycle or copying the pattern space to standard output.




          Note also that the p in your sed program never executes, as D starts a new cycle.






          share|improve this answer




















          • 2





            Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:29












          • @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

            – Kusalananda
            Mar 30 at 17:31











          • Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:34














          8












          8








          8







          BSD sed, when using l to output characters in a visually unambiguous form, does not output newlines in a visually unambiguous form.



          From sed(1) on OpenBSD:



           [2addr]l
          (The letter ell.) Write the pattern space to the standard output
          in a visually unambiguous form. This form is as follows:

          backslash \
          alert a
          backspace b
          form-feed f
          carriage-return r
          tab t
          vertical tab v


          (note lack of mentioning of newlines).



          GNU sed, however, includes newlines in the set of characters to display unambiguously. It does this as an extension to the set of characters that the POSIX standard for sed mentions (which is the set that BSD sed uses). GNU sed behaves this way even if --posix is used on the command line.



          GNU sed also outputs 10 twice, while BSD sed does not. Running GNU sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT set or with --posix will make it output 10 only once, like BSD sed does.



          This is because GNU sed by default ignores the part of POSIX definition of the sed N command that says




          If no next line of input is available, the N command verb shall branch to the end of the script and quit without starting a new cycle or copying the pattern space to standard output.




          Note also that the p in your sed program never executes, as D starts a new cycle.






          share|improve this answer















          BSD sed, when using l to output characters in a visually unambiguous form, does not output newlines in a visually unambiguous form.



          From sed(1) on OpenBSD:



           [2addr]l
          (The letter ell.) Write the pattern space to the standard output
          in a visually unambiguous form. This form is as follows:

          backslash \
          alert a
          backspace b
          form-feed f
          carriage-return r
          tab t
          vertical tab v


          (note lack of mentioning of newlines).



          GNU sed, however, includes newlines in the set of characters to display unambiguously. It does this as an extension to the set of characters that the POSIX standard for sed mentions (which is the set that BSD sed uses). GNU sed behaves this way even if --posix is used on the command line.



          GNU sed also outputs 10 twice, while BSD sed does not. Running GNU sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT set or with --posix will make it output 10 only once, like BSD sed does.



          This is because GNU sed by default ignores the part of POSIX definition of the sed N command that says




          If no next line of input is available, the N command verb shall branch to the end of the script and quit without starting a new cycle or copying the pattern space to standard output.




          Note also that the p in your sed program never executes, as D starts a new cycle.







          share|improve this answer














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            Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:29












          • @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

            – Kusalananda
            Mar 30 at 17:31











          • Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:34













          • 2





            Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:29












          • @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

            – Kusalananda
            Mar 30 at 17:31











          • Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

            – Stéphane Chazelas
            Mar 30 at 17:34








          2




          2





          Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

          – Stéphane Chazelas
          Mar 30 at 17:29






          Another difference is 10 being displayed once with BSD sed, and this time GNU sed behaves like BSD sed with POSIXLY_CORRECT. That's why you generally want to use $!N instead of N when -n is not enabled.

          – Stéphane Chazelas
          Mar 30 at 17:29














          @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

          – Kusalananda
          Mar 30 at 17:31





          @StéphaneChazelas Thanks. I did not notice that difference at first.

          – Kusalananda
          Mar 30 at 17:31













          Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

          – Stéphane Chazelas
          Mar 30 at 17:34






          Note that ast-open's sed behaves like GNU sed wrt n displayed by l. I suspect the POSIX requirement is an oversight here (they say it's not applicable which doesn't make sense here, I suspect they say that because the pattern space normally doesn't contain newline by default but overlook the fact that it can be added by N, G, s...; if they wanted to require the original sed behaviour, they would have said something like newline shall be output literally or something like that)

          – Stéphane Chazelas
          Mar 30 at 17:34


















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Indicador: Tasa bruta de mortalidad (por 1000 habitantes).Population.Falleció el patriarca de la Iglesia Ortodoxa serbia.Atacan en Kosovo autobuses con peregrinos tras la investidura del patriarca serbio IrinejSerbian in Hungary.Tasas de cambio."Kosovo es de todos sus ciudadanos".Report for Serbia.Country groups by income.GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT (GDP) OF THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIA 1997–2007.Economic Trends in the Republic of Serbia 2006.National Accounts Statitics.Саопштења за јавност.GDP per inhabitant varied by one to six across the EU27 Member States.Un pacto de estabilidad para Serbia.Unemployment rate rises in Serbia.Serbia, Belarus agree free trade to woo investors.Serbia, Turkey call investors to Serbia.Success Stories.U.S. Private Investment in Serbia and Montenegro.Positive trend.Banks in Serbia.La Cámara de Comercio acompaña a empresas madrileñas a Serbia y Croacia.Serbia Industries.Energy and mining.Agriculture.Late crops, fruit and grapes output, 2008.Rebranding Serbia: A Hobby Shortly to Become a Full-Time Job.Final data on livestock statistics, 2008.Serbian cell-phone users.U Srbiji sve više računara.Телекомуникације.U Srbiji 27 odsto gradjana koristi Internet.Serbia and Montenegro.Тренд гледаности програма РТС-а у 2008. и 2009.години.Serbian railways.General Terms.El mercado del transporte aéreo en Serbia.Statistics.Vehículos de motor registrados.Planes ambiciosos para el transporte fluvial.Turismo.Turistički promet u Republici Srbiji u periodu januar-novembar 2007. godine.Your Guide to Culture.Novi Sad - city of culture.Nis - european crossroads.Serbia. Properties inscribed on the World Heritage List .Stari Ras and Sopoćani.Studenica Monastery.Medieval Monuments in Kosovo.Gamzigrad-Romuliana, Palace of Galerius.Skiing and snowboarding in Kopaonik.Tara.New7Wonders of Nature Finalists.Pilgrimage of Saint Sava.Exit Festival: Best european festival.Banje u Srbiji.«The Encyclopedia of world history»Culture.Centenario del arte serbio.«Djordje Andrejevic Kun: el único pintor de los brigadistas yugoslavos de la guerra civil española»About the museum.The collections.Miroslav Gospel – Manuscript from 1180.Historicity in the Serbo-Croatian Heroic Epic.Culture and Sport.Conversación con el rector del Seminario San Sava.'Reina Margot' funde drama, historia y gesto con música de Goran Bregovic.Serbia gana Eurovisión y España decepciona de nuevo con un vigésimo puesto.Home.Story.Emir Kusturica.Tercer oro para Paskaljevic.Nikola Tesla Year.Home.Tesla, un genio tomado por loco.Aniversario de la muerte de Nikola Tesla.El Museo Nikola Tesla en Belgrado.El inventor del mundo actual.República de Serbia.University of Belgrade official statistics.University of Novi Sad.University of Kragujevac.University of Nis.Comida. Cocina serbia.Cooking.Montenegro se convertirá en el miembro 204 del movimiento olímpico.España, campeona de Europa de baloncesto.El Partizan de Belgrado se corona campeón por octava vez consecutiva.Serbia se clasifica para el Mundial de 2010 de Sudáfrica.Serbia Name Squad For Northern Ireland And South Korea Tests.Fútbol.- El Partizán de Belgrado se proclama campeón de la Liga serbia.Clasificacion final Mundial de balonmano Croacia 2009.Serbia vence a España y se consagra campeón mundial de waterpolo.Novak Djokovic no convence pero gana en Australia.Gana Ana Ivanovic el Roland Garros.Serena Williams gana el US Open por tercera vez.Biography.Bradt Travel Guide SerbiaThe Encyclopedia of World War IGobierno de SerbiaPortal del Gobierno de SerbiaPresidencia de SerbiaAsamblea Nacional SerbiaMinisterio de Asuntos exteriores de SerbiaBanco Nacional de SerbiaAgencia Serbia para la Promoción de la Inversión y la ExportaciónOficina de Estadísticas de SerbiaCIA. 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