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I’m trying to prove the following statement:




Let $V$ be an affine algebraic set, $Gamma(V)$ its coordinate ring, and $Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)$ the sheaf of regular functions of $D(f)=xin Vmid f(x)neq0$ for a non-zero $finGamma(V)$. Then $$Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)=Gamma(V)_f$$ where $Gamma(V)_f$ is $Gamma(V)$ localised at $f^nmid ninmathbbN_0$.




I can follow the proof of Fulton suggested in this answer, however he requires that the variety be irreducible, and takes the regular functions to be the rational functions defined on all of $D(f)$.



Hartshorne requires only that a regular function be given by a rational function on some open neighbourhood for every $xin D(f)$, and I can’t seem to reconcile these definitions (although it is suggested in the linked answer that they are equivalent). However his proof is then given in the language of schemes, which I have yet to study.



Both Hartshorne and Mumford also specify that the variety is irreducible, so does this question even make sense when $Gamma(V)$ may not have a field of fractions?



Any help would be much appreciated.



Update: There is a proof given in this Wikipedia article which doesn't seem to require $V$ be irreducible, and it would seem that their definition of regular functions here agrees with the more general one. However I can't follow the justification for the existence of $D(h)$, or the notation $k[D(h)]$.



We know that there is an open set around $x$ where $f$ is given by a rational function, and since the standard open sets form a basis we can find some subset $D(h)$ containing $x$, but I can't see why the rational function should necessarily be in $A[h^-1]$.










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    I’m trying to prove the following statement:




    Let $V$ be an affine algebraic set, $Gamma(V)$ its coordinate ring, and $Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)$ the sheaf of regular functions of $D(f)=xin Vmid f(x)neq0$ for a non-zero $finGamma(V)$. Then $$Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)=Gamma(V)_f$$ where $Gamma(V)_f$ is $Gamma(V)$ localised at $f^nmid ninmathbbN_0$.




    I can follow the proof of Fulton suggested in this answer, however he requires that the variety be irreducible, and takes the regular functions to be the rational functions defined on all of $D(f)$.



    Hartshorne requires only that a regular function be given by a rational function on some open neighbourhood for every $xin D(f)$, and I can’t seem to reconcile these definitions (although it is suggested in the linked answer that they are equivalent). However his proof is then given in the language of schemes, which I have yet to study.



    Both Hartshorne and Mumford also specify that the variety is irreducible, so does this question even make sense when $Gamma(V)$ may not have a field of fractions?



    Any help would be much appreciated.



    Update: There is a proof given in this Wikipedia article which doesn't seem to require $V$ be irreducible, and it would seem that their definition of regular functions here agrees with the more general one. However I can't follow the justification for the existence of $D(h)$, or the notation $k[D(h)]$.



    We know that there is an open set around $x$ where $f$ is given by a rational function, and since the standard open sets form a basis we can find some subset $D(h)$ containing $x$, but I can't see why the rational function should necessarily be in $A[h^-1]$.










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      I’m trying to prove the following statement:




      Let $V$ be an affine algebraic set, $Gamma(V)$ its coordinate ring, and $Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)$ the sheaf of regular functions of $D(f)=xin Vmid f(x)neq0$ for a non-zero $finGamma(V)$. Then $$Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)=Gamma(V)_f$$ where $Gamma(V)_f$ is $Gamma(V)$ localised at $f^nmid ninmathbbN_0$.




      I can follow the proof of Fulton suggested in this answer, however he requires that the variety be irreducible, and takes the regular functions to be the rational functions defined on all of $D(f)$.



      Hartshorne requires only that a regular function be given by a rational function on some open neighbourhood for every $xin D(f)$, and I can’t seem to reconcile these definitions (although it is suggested in the linked answer that they are equivalent). However his proof is then given in the language of schemes, which I have yet to study.



      Both Hartshorne and Mumford also specify that the variety is irreducible, so does this question even make sense when $Gamma(V)$ may not have a field of fractions?



      Any help would be much appreciated.



      Update: There is a proof given in this Wikipedia article which doesn't seem to require $V$ be irreducible, and it would seem that their definition of regular functions here agrees with the more general one. However I can't follow the justification for the existence of $D(h)$, or the notation $k[D(h)]$.



      We know that there is an open set around $x$ where $f$ is given by a rational function, and since the standard open sets form a basis we can find some subset $D(h)$ containing $x$, but I can't see why the rational function should necessarily be in $A[h^-1]$.










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      I’m trying to prove the following statement:




      Let $V$ be an affine algebraic set, $Gamma(V)$ its coordinate ring, and $Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)$ the sheaf of regular functions of $D(f)=xin Vmid f(x)neq0$ for a non-zero $finGamma(V)$. Then $$Gamma(D(f),mathcalO_V)=Gamma(V)_f$$ where $Gamma(V)_f$ is $Gamma(V)$ localised at $f^nmid ninmathbbN_0$.




      I can follow the proof of Fulton suggested in this answer, however he requires that the variety be irreducible, and takes the regular functions to be the rational functions defined on all of $D(f)$.



      Hartshorne requires only that a regular function be given by a rational function on some open neighbourhood for every $xin D(f)$, and I can’t seem to reconcile these definitions (although it is suggested in the linked answer that they are equivalent). However his proof is then given in the language of schemes, which I have yet to study.



      Both Hartshorne and Mumford also specify that the variety is irreducible, so does this question even make sense when $Gamma(V)$ may not have a field of fractions?



      Any help would be much appreciated.



      Update: There is a proof given in this Wikipedia article which doesn't seem to require $V$ be irreducible, and it would seem that their definition of regular functions here agrees with the more general one. However I can't follow the justification for the existence of $D(h)$, or the notation $k[D(h)]$.



      We know that there is an open set around $x$ where $f$ is given by a rational function, and since the standard open sets form a basis we can find some subset $D(h)$ containing $x$, but I can't see why the rational function should necessarily be in $A[h^-1]$.







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          This is a good question, and it does make sense even when $V$ is reducible, and the definitions are equivalent (over an algebraically closed field). Everyone deserves to see this done carefully at least once. It is important. The proof in the wiki link you cite is sloppy, and even if they fixed it, they would use irreducibility (so that open sets are dense), without warning, which is pedagogically immoral as far as I'm concerned. Shafarevich does some similar sleight of hand in his book. It took me a bit to forgive him for that. Getting your hands dirty here should not be avoided.



          With that said, I tried to be careful, and I think I have been morally careful, but look out for typos.




          If a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ is defined by $g/h$ in a neighborhood $Usubset D(f)$ of $x in D(f)$, there is always some $uin Gamma(V)$ with $xin D(u)subset U$ (these $D(cdot)$ open sets form a basis for the Zariski topology), and then $phi$ is defined by $(ug)/(uh)$ on $D(uh) subset D(f)$. So we can always choose an expression for $phi$ as a rational function at $x$ which is valid in the open set defined by the nonvanishing of its denominator.




          So now suppose we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $iin I$ some indexing set, with $cup_iin I D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$.



          Let's first show we only need finitely many $i$. (As noted in the comments, you can use Noetherianness here, but I don't.) We have $V(f) = cap_iin I V(h_i) = V(h_i : iin I)$. By the Nullstellensatz, $f$ is in the radical of the ideal $(h_i : iin I)$, i.e., $f^m = v_1h_i_1 +dots+ v_nh_i_n$ for some $i_1,dots,i_nin I$, $v_1,dots,v_n in Gamma(V)$, and $min mathbbN$. Lets write $h_j := h_i_j$. Now $V(h_1,dots,h_n) subset V(f)$, so $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n) = D(f)$, since all $D(h_i) subset D(f)$.



          Okay, now we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $1le i le n$, with $cup_i=1^n D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$. Now for each $i$, we have $D(h_i) subset D(f)$, so that $V(f) subset V(h_i)$, and so by the Nullstellensatz, there is some $q_i in Gamma(V)$ and $m_i in mathbbN$ (let's go ahead and assume without loss of generality that $m_ige 2$ for later) so that $q_if = h_i^m_i$. Notice that for $xin D(f)$, $q_i(x) = 0$ if and only if $h_i(x) = 0$. Now as we did above (here we really do need the Nullstellensatz), since $V(h_1,dots,h_n) = V(h_1^m_1,dots,h_n^m_n) subset V(f)$, there exist $p_1,dots,p_n in Gamma(V)$ so that $p_1h_1^m_1 + dots + p_nh_n^m_n = f^ell+1$ for some $ell ge 0$. Now substituting, we have
          $$p_1q_1 f + dots + p_nq_n f = f^ell+1$$
          so that
          $$p_1q_1 + dots + p_nq_n = f^ell$$
          on $D(f)$. (To get an idea for what's going to happen, see my note at the bottom before proceeding.)



          Now I claim that
          $$phi = sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1$$
          on all of $D(f)$.



          Let's check it at any point $xin D(f)$. Without loss of generality (by reordering), we assume $xin D(h_j)$ for $j=1,dots,k$ and $xnotin D(h_j)$ for $j=k+1,dots,n$. So (each step here uses some stuff from above, so be alert)



          $$left(sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1right)(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)f(x) $$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)q_j(x)f(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)h_j^m_j(x)$$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k p_j(x)q_j(x) phi(x)$$



          $$=fracphi(x)f^ell(x)left(sum_i=1^n p_i(x)q_i(x)right) = phi(x).$$



          And that's the end. If you read the string of equations backward, you can see the motivation for the claimed form of $phi$.




          Note: If you've ever learned any differential topology, this $p_1q_1+dots+p_nq_n$ thing is basically a partition of unity with respect to the decomposition $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n)$ of $D(f)$, which lets you sum functions which are only defined locally. To be a little more accurate, it's a partition of $f^ell$, but that's just as good, since we're allowed to divide by $f^ell$ on $D(f)$.






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            Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
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            Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
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          This is a good question, and it does make sense even when $V$ is reducible, and the definitions are equivalent (over an algebraically closed field). Everyone deserves to see this done carefully at least once. It is important. The proof in the wiki link you cite is sloppy, and even if they fixed it, they would use irreducibility (so that open sets are dense), without warning, which is pedagogically immoral as far as I'm concerned. Shafarevich does some similar sleight of hand in his book. It took me a bit to forgive him for that. Getting your hands dirty here should not be avoided.



          With that said, I tried to be careful, and I think I have been morally careful, but look out for typos.




          If a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ is defined by $g/h$ in a neighborhood $Usubset D(f)$ of $x in D(f)$, there is always some $uin Gamma(V)$ with $xin D(u)subset U$ (these $D(cdot)$ open sets form a basis for the Zariski topology), and then $phi$ is defined by $(ug)/(uh)$ on $D(uh) subset D(f)$. So we can always choose an expression for $phi$ as a rational function at $x$ which is valid in the open set defined by the nonvanishing of its denominator.




          So now suppose we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $iin I$ some indexing set, with $cup_iin I D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$.



          Let's first show we only need finitely many $i$. (As noted in the comments, you can use Noetherianness here, but I don't.) We have $V(f) = cap_iin I V(h_i) = V(h_i : iin I)$. By the Nullstellensatz, $f$ is in the radical of the ideal $(h_i : iin I)$, i.e., $f^m = v_1h_i_1 +dots+ v_nh_i_n$ for some $i_1,dots,i_nin I$, $v_1,dots,v_n in Gamma(V)$, and $min mathbbN$. Lets write $h_j := h_i_j$. Now $V(h_1,dots,h_n) subset V(f)$, so $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n) = D(f)$, since all $D(h_i) subset D(f)$.



          Okay, now we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $1le i le n$, with $cup_i=1^n D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$. Now for each $i$, we have $D(h_i) subset D(f)$, so that $V(f) subset V(h_i)$, and so by the Nullstellensatz, there is some $q_i in Gamma(V)$ and $m_i in mathbbN$ (let's go ahead and assume without loss of generality that $m_ige 2$ for later) so that $q_if = h_i^m_i$. Notice that for $xin D(f)$, $q_i(x) = 0$ if and only if $h_i(x) = 0$. Now as we did above (here we really do need the Nullstellensatz), since $V(h_1,dots,h_n) = V(h_1^m_1,dots,h_n^m_n) subset V(f)$, there exist $p_1,dots,p_n in Gamma(V)$ so that $p_1h_1^m_1 + dots + p_nh_n^m_n = f^ell+1$ for some $ell ge 0$. Now substituting, we have
          $$p_1q_1 f + dots + p_nq_n f = f^ell+1$$
          so that
          $$p_1q_1 + dots + p_nq_n = f^ell$$
          on $D(f)$. (To get an idea for what's going to happen, see my note at the bottom before proceeding.)



          Now I claim that
          $$phi = sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1$$
          on all of $D(f)$.



          Let's check it at any point $xin D(f)$. Without loss of generality (by reordering), we assume $xin D(h_j)$ for $j=1,dots,k$ and $xnotin D(h_j)$ for $j=k+1,dots,n$. So (each step here uses some stuff from above, so be alert)



          $$left(sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1right)(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)f(x) $$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)q_j(x)f(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)h_j^m_j(x)$$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k p_j(x)q_j(x) phi(x)$$



          $$=fracphi(x)f^ell(x)left(sum_i=1^n p_i(x)q_i(x)right) = phi(x).$$



          And that's the end. If you read the string of equations backward, you can see the motivation for the claimed form of $phi$.




          Note: If you've ever learned any differential topology, this $p_1q_1+dots+p_nq_n$ thing is basically a partition of unity with respect to the decomposition $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n)$ of $D(f)$, which lets you sum functions which are only defined locally. To be a little more accurate, it's a partition of $f^ell$, but that's just as good, since we're allowed to divide by $f^ell$ on $D(f)$.






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            Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
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            Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
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          This is a good question, and it does make sense even when $V$ is reducible, and the definitions are equivalent (over an algebraically closed field). Everyone deserves to see this done carefully at least once. It is important. The proof in the wiki link you cite is sloppy, and even if they fixed it, they would use irreducibility (so that open sets are dense), without warning, which is pedagogically immoral as far as I'm concerned. Shafarevich does some similar sleight of hand in his book. It took me a bit to forgive him for that. Getting your hands dirty here should not be avoided.



          With that said, I tried to be careful, and I think I have been morally careful, but look out for typos.




          If a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ is defined by $g/h$ in a neighborhood $Usubset D(f)$ of $x in D(f)$, there is always some $uin Gamma(V)$ with $xin D(u)subset U$ (these $D(cdot)$ open sets form a basis for the Zariski topology), and then $phi$ is defined by $(ug)/(uh)$ on $D(uh) subset D(f)$. So we can always choose an expression for $phi$ as a rational function at $x$ which is valid in the open set defined by the nonvanishing of its denominator.




          So now suppose we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $iin I$ some indexing set, with $cup_iin I D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$.



          Let's first show we only need finitely many $i$. (As noted in the comments, you can use Noetherianness here, but I don't.) We have $V(f) = cap_iin I V(h_i) = V(h_i : iin I)$. By the Nullstellensatz, $f$ is in the radical of the ideal $(h_i : iin I)$, i.e., $f^m = v_1h_i_1 +dots+ v_nh_i_n$ for some $i_1,dots,i_nin I$, $v_1,dots,v_n in Gamma(V)$, and $min mathbbN$. Lets write $h_j := h_i_j$. Now $V(h_1,dots,h_n) subset V(f)$, so $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n) = D(f)$, since all $D(h_i) subset D(f)$.



          Okay, now we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $1le i le n$, with $cup_i=1^n D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$. Now for each $i$, we have $D(h_i) subset D(f)$, so that $V(f) subset V(h_i)$, and so by the Nullstellensatz, there is some $q_i in Gamma(V)$ and $m_i in mathbbN$ (let's go ahead and assume without loss of generality that $m_ige 2$ for later) so that $q_if = h_i^m_i$. Notice that for $xin D(f)$, $q_i(x) = 0$ if and only if $h_i(x) = 0$. Now as we did above (here we really do need the Nullstellensatz), since $V(h_1,dots,h_n) = V(h_1^m_1,dots,h_n^m_n) subset V(f)$, there exist $p_1,dots,p_n in Gamma(V)$ so that $p_1h_1^m_1 + dots + p_nh_n^m_n = f^ell+1$ for some $ell ge 0$. Now substituting, we have
          $$p_1q_1 f + dots + p_nq_n f = f^ell+1$$
          so that
          $$p_1q_1 + dots + p_nq_n = f^ell$$
          on $D(f)$. (To get an idea for what's going to happen, see my note at the bottom before proceeding.)



          Now I claim that
          $$phi = sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1$$
          on all of $D(f)$.



          Let's check it at any point $xin D(f)$. Without loss of generality (by reordering), we assume $xin D(h_j)$ for $j=1,dots,k$ and $xnotin D(h_j)$ for $j=k+1,dots,n$. So (each step here uses some stuff from above, so be alert)



          $$left(sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1right)(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)f(x) $$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)q_j(x)f(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)h_j^m_j(x)$$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k p_j(x)q_j(x) phi(x)$$



          $$=fracphi(x)f^ell(x)left(sum_i=1^n p_i(x)q_i(x)right) = phi(x).$$



          And that's the end. If you read the string of equations backward, you can see the motivation for the claimed form of $phi$.




          Note: If you've ever learned any differential topology, this $p_1q_1+dots+p_nq_n$ thing is basically a partition of unity with respect to the decomposition $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n)$ of $D(f)$, which lets you sum functions which are only defined locally. To be a little more accurate, it's a partition of $f^ell$, but that's just as good, since we're allowed to divide by $f^ell$ on $D(f)$.






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            Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
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            Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
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          This is a good question, and it does make sense even when $V$ is reducible, and the definitions are equivalent (over an algebraically closed field). Everyone deserves to see this done carefully at least once. It is important. The proof in the wiki link you cite is sloppy, and even if they fixed it, they would use irreducibility (so that open sets are dense), without warning, which is pedagogically immoral as far as I'm concerned. Shafarevich does some similar sleight of hand in his book. It took me a bit to forgive him for that. Getting your hands dirty here should not be avoided.



          With that said, I tried to be careful, and I think I have been morally careful, but look out for typos.




          If a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ is defined by $g/h$ in a neighborhood $Usubset D(f)$ of $x in D(f)$, there is always some $uin Gamma(V)$ with $xin D(u)subset U$ (these $D(cdot)$ open sets form a basis for the Zariski topology), and then $phi$ is defined by $(ug)/(uh)$ on $D(uh) subset D(f)$. So we can always choose an expression for $phi$ as a rational function at $x$ which is valid in the open set defined by the nonvanishing of its denominator.




          So now suppose we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $iin I$ some indexing set, with $cup_iin I D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$.



          Let's first show we only need finitely many $i$. (As noted in the comments, you can use Noetherianness here, but I don't.) We have $V(f) = cap_iin I V(h_i) = V(h_i : iin I)$. By the Nullstellensatz, $f$ is in the radical of the ideal $(h_i : iin I)$, i.e., $f^m = v_1h_i_1 +dots+ v_nh_i_n$ for some $i_1,dots,i_nin I$, $v_1,dots,v_n in Gamma(V)$, and $min mathbbN$. Lets write $h_j := h_i_j$. Now $V(h_1,dots,h_n) subset V(f)$, so $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n) = D(f)$, since all $D(h_i) subset D(f)$.



          Okay, now we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $1le i le n$, with $cup_i=1^n D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$. Now for each $i$, we have $D(h_i) subset D(f)$, so that $V(f) subset V(h_i)$, and so by the Nullstellensatz, there is some $q_i in Gamma(V)$ and $m_i in mathbbN$ (let's go ahead and assume without loss of generality that $m_ige 2$ for later) so that $q_if = h_i^m_i$. Notice that for $xin D(f)$, $q_i(x) = 0$ if and only if $h_i(x) = 0$. Now as we did above (here we really do need the Nullstellensatz), since $V(h_1,dots,h_n) = V(h_1^m_1,dots,h_n^m_n) subset V(f)$, there exist $p_1,dots,p_n in Gamma(V)$ so that $p_1h_1^m_1 + dots + p_nh_n^m_n = f^ell+1$ for some $ell ge 0$. Now substituting, we have
          $$p_1q_1 f + dots + p_nq_n f = f^ell+1$$
          so that
          $$p_1q_1 + dots + p_nq_n = f^ell$$
          on $D(f)$. (To get an idea for what's going to happen, see my note at the bottom before proceeding.)



          Now I claim that
          $$phi = sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1$$
          on all of $D(f)$.



          Let's check it at any point $xin D(f)$. Without loss of generality (by reordering), we assume $xin D(h_j)$ for $j=1,dots,k$ and $xnotin D(h_j)$ for $j=k+1,dots,n$. So (each step here uses some stuff from above, so be alert)



          $$left(sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1right)(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)f(x) $$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)q_j(x)f(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)h_j^m_j(x)$$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k p_j(x)q_j(x) phi(x)$$



          $$=fracphi(x)f^ell(x)left(sum_i=1^n p_i(x)q_i(x)right) = phi(x).$$



          And that's the end. If you read the string of equations backward, you can see the motivation for the claimed form of $phi$.




          Note: If you've ever learned any differential topology, this $p_1q_1+dots+p_nq_n$ thing is basically a partition of unity with respect to the decomposition $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n)$ of $D(f)$, which lets you sum functions which are only defined locally. To be a little more accurate, it's a partition of $f^ell$, but that's just as good, since we're allowed to divide by $f^ell$ on $D(f)$.






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          This is a good question, and it does make sense even when $V$ is reducible, and the definitions are equivalent (over an algebraically closed field). Everyone deserves to see this done carefully at least once. It is important. The proof in the wiki link you cite is sloppy, and even if they fixed it, they would use irreducibility (so that open sets are dense), without warning, which is pedagogically immoral as far as I'm concerned. Shafarevich does some similar sleight of hand in his book. It took me a bit to forgive him for that. Getting your hands dirty here should not be avoided.



          With that said, I tried to be careful, and I think I have been morally careful, but look out for typos.




          If a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ is defined by $g/h$ in a neighborhood $Usubset D(f)$ of $x in D(f)$, there is always some $uin Gamma(V)$ with $xin D(u)subset U$ (these $D(cdot)$ open sets form a basis for the Zariski topology), and then $phi$ is defined by $(ug)/(uh)$ on $D(uh) subset D(f)$. So we can always choose an expression for $phi$ as a rational function at $x$ which is valid in the open set defined by the nonvanishing of its denominator.




          So now suppose we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $iin I$ some indexing set, with $cup_iin I D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$.



          Let's first show we only need finitely many $i$. (As noted in the comments, you can use Noetherianness here, but I don't.) We have $V(f) = cap_iin I V(h_i) = V(h_i : iin I)$. By the Nullstellensatz, $f$ is in the radical of the ideal $(h_i : iin I)$, i.e., $f^m = v_1h_i_1 +dots+ v_nh_i_n$ for some $i_1,dots,i_nin I$, $v_1,dots,v_n in Gamma(V)$, and $min mathbbN$. Lets write $h_j := h_i_j$. Now $V(h_1,dots,h_n) subset V(f)$, so $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n) = D(f)$, since all $D(h_i) subset D(f)$.



          Okay, now we have a regular function $phi$ on $D(f)$ and functions $g_i,h_i in Gamma(V)$, $1le i le n$, with $cup_i=1^n D(h_i) = D(f)$ such that $phi = g_i/h_i$ on $D(h_i)$. Now for each $i$, we have $D(h_i) subset D(f)$, so that $V(f) subset V(h_i)$, and so by the Nullstellensatz, there is some $q_i in Gamma(V)$ and $m_i in mathbbN$ (let's go ahead and assume without loss of generality that $m_ige 2$ for later) so that $q_if = h_i^m_i$. Notice that for $xin D(f)$, $q_i(x) = 0$ if and only if $h_i(x) = 0$. Now as we did above (here we really do need the Nullstellensatz), since $V(h_1,dots,h_n) = V(h_1^m_1,dots,h_n^m_n) subset V(f)$, there exist $p_1,dots,p_n in Gamma(V)$ so that $p_1h_1^m_1 + dots + p_nh_n^m_n = f^ell+1$ for some $ell ge 0$. Now substituting, we have
          $$p_1q_1 f + dots + p_nq_n f = f^ell+1$$
          so that
          $$p_1q_1 + dots + p_nq_n = f^ell$$
          on $D(f)$. (To get an idea for what's going to happen, see my note at the bottom before proceeding.)



          Now I claim that
          $$phi = sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1$$
          on all of $D(f)$.



          Let's check it at any point $xin D(f)$. Without loss of generality (by reordering), we assume $xin D(h_j)$ for $j=1,dots,k$ and $xnotin D(h_j)$ for $j=k+1,dots,n$. So (each step here uses some stuff from above, so be alert)



          $$left(sum_j=1^n fracp_jg_jh_j^m_j-1f^ell+1right)(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)f(x) $$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)q_j(x)f(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j^m_j-1(x)h_j^m_j(x)$$



          $$= frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k fracp_j(x)q_j(x)g_j(x)h_j(x) = frac1f^ell(x)sum_j=1^k p_j(x)q_j(x) phi(x)$$



          $$=fracphi(x)f^ell(x)left(sum_i=1^n p_i(x)q_i(x)right) = phi(x).$$



          And that's the end. If you read the string of equations backward, you can see the motivation for the claimed form of $phi$.




          Note: If you've ever learned any differential topology, this $p_1q_1+dots+p_nq_n$ thing is basically a partition of unity with respect to the decomposition $D(h_1)cupdotscup D(h_n)$ of $D(f)$, which lets you sum functions which are only defined locally. To be a little more accurate, it's a partition of $f^ell$, but that's just as good, since we're allowed to divide by $f^ell$ on $D(f)$.







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          • $begingroup$
            Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
            $endgroup$
            – Dave
            Mar 26 at 17:48






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
            $endgroup$
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            Mar 26 at 18:08

















          • $begingroup$
            Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
            $endgroup$
            – Dave
            Mar 26 at 17:48






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
            $endgroup$
            – csprun
            Mar 26 at 18:08
















          $begingroup$
          Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
          $endgroup$
          – Dave
          Mar 26 at 17:48




          $begingroup$
          Many thanks for such a detailed explanation, by far the clearest I’ve seen! Just a small question, at the step of showing that finitely many $i$ suffice, is there a reason we cannot use that $Gamma(V)$ is Noetherian to conclude that $V(f)=V(h_1,ldots,h_n)$ without using the Nullstellensatz?
          $endgroup$
          – Dave
          Mar 26 at 17:48




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
          $endgroup$
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          Mar 26 at 18:08





          $begingroup$
          Nope, that works! In the scheme world, things are not Noetherian in general, so I'm used to avoiding Noetherianness in fundamental proofs like this one (or rather in the analogous scheme proof). A proof very much like this one is needed, at least from one set of definitions, to prove that the regular functions on an affine scheme form a sheaf of rings. If you keep reading Hartshorne, he starts talking about sheaves right after varieties, if I remember correctly.
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Indicador: Tasa bruta de mortalidad (por 1000 habitantes).Population.Falleció el patriarca de la Iglesia Ortodoxa serbia.Atacan en Kosovo autobuses con peregrinos tras la investidura del patriarca serbio IrinejSerbian in Hungary.Tasas de cambio."Kosovo es de todos sus ciudadanos".Report for Serbia.Country groups by income.GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT (GDP) OF THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIA 1997–2007.Economic Trends in the Republic of Serbia 2006.National Accounts Statitics.Саопштења за јавност.GDP per inhabitant varied by one to six across the EU27 Member States.Un pacto de estabilidad para Serbia.Unemployment rate rises in Serbia.Serbia, Belarus agree free trade to woo investors.Serbia, Turkey call investors to Serbia.Success Stories.U.S. Private Investment in Serbia and Montenegro.Positive trend.Banks in Serbia.La Cámara de Comercio acompaña a empresas madrileñas a Serbia y Croacia.Serbia Industries.Energy and mining.Agriculture.Late crops, fruit and grapes output, 2008.Rebranding Serbia: A Hobby Shortly to Become a Full-Time Job.Final data on livestock statistics, 2008.Serbian cell-phone users.U Srbiji sve više računara.Телекомуникације.U Srbiji 27 odsto gradjana koristi Internet.Serbia and Montenegro.Тренд гледаности програма РТС-а у 2008. и 2009.години.Serbian railways.General Terms.El mercado del transporte aéreo en Serbia.Statistics.Vehículos de motor registrados.Planes ambiciosos para el transporte fluvial.Turismo.Turistički promet u Republici Srbiji u periodu januar-novembar 2007. godine.Your Guide to Culture.Novi Sad - city of culture.Nis - european crossroads.Serbia. Properties inscribed on the World Heritage List .Stari Ras and Sopoćani.Studenica Monastery.Medieval Monuments in Kosovo.Gamzigrad-Romuliana, Palace of Galerius.Skiing and snowboarding in Kopaonik.Tara.New7Wonders of Nature Finalists.Pilgrimage of Saint Sava.Exit Festival: Best european festival.Banje u Srbiji.«The Encyclopedia of world history»Culture.Centenario del arte serbio.«Djordje Andrejevic Kun: el único pintor de los brigadistas yugoslavos de la guerra civil española»About the museum.The collections.Miroslav Gospel – Manuscript from 1180.Historicity in the Serbo-Croatian Heroic Epic.Culture and Sport.Conversación con el rector del Seminario San Sava.'Reina Margot' funde drama, historia y gesto con música de Goran Bregovic.Serbia gana Eurovisión y España decepciona de nuevo con un vigésimo puesto.Home.Story.Emir Kusturica.Tercer oro para Paskaljevic.Nikola Tesla Year.Home.Tesla, un genio tomado por loco.Aniversario de la muerte de Nikola Tesla.El Museo Nikola Tesla en Belgrado.El inventor del mundo actual.República de Serbia.University of Belgrade official statistics.University of Novi Sad.University of Kragujevac.University of Nis.Comida. Cocina serbia.Cooking.Montenegro se convertirá en el miembro 204 del movimiento olímpico.España, campeona de Europa de baloncesto.El Partizan de Belgrado se corona campeón por octava vez consecutiva.Serbia se clasifica para el Mundial de 2010 de Sudáfrica.Serbia Name Squad For Northern Ireland And South Korea Tests.Fútbol.- El Partizán de Belgrado se proclama campeón de la Liga serbia.Clasificacion final Mundial de balonmano Croacia 2009.Serbia vence a España y se consagra campeón mundial de waterpolo.Novak Djokovic no convence pero gana en Australia.Gana Ana Ivanovic el Roland Garros.Serena Williams gana el US Open por tercera vez.Biography.Bradt Travel Guide SerbiaThe Encyclopedia of World War IGobierno de SerbiaPortal del Gobierno de SerbiaPresidencia de SerbiaAsamblea Nacional SerbiaMinisterio de Asuntos exteriores de SerbiaBanco Nacional de SerbiaAgencia Serbia para la Promoción de la Inversión y la ExportaciónOficina de Estadísticas de SerbiaCIA. 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