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Why does $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$ lead to a circular motion?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InMathematical proof of uniform circular motion.Circular MotionProof: Force always perpendicular and motion in a plane implies that the trajectory is a circleInvertibility of inertia matricesWhy are these triangles similar ? (Derivation of uniform circular motion equation )Shielding off an external gravitational field by using a centrifugeA Work-Kinetic energy proof that is mathematically sound?Circular Motion QuestionHyperbolic motion and circular motionWhy is this approach incorrect? - Circular motionSystematic way of obtaining conservation laws in dynamical systems










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Here is a mathematical proof that any force $F(t)$, which affects a body, so that $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$, where $v(t)$ is its velocity cannot change the amount of this velocity.



Further, there is stated that $vecv(t)$ itself cannot change, what I think is nonsense. Since:



$$beginpmatrix 1 \ 0 \ 0 endpmatrix + beginpmatrix 0 \ 1 \ 0 endpmatrix times t = beginpmatrix 1 \ t \ 0 endpmatrix $$



But maybe I am just wrong.
Now, I am further wondering in how far $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$ leads to a circular motion and how to proof this using Netwons laws and calculus? Can you explain why a circle is created, if you let the time tick?










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    Here is a mathematical proof that any force $F(t)$, which affects a body, so that $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$, where $v(t)$ is its velocity cannot change the amount of this velocity.



    Further, there is stated that $vecv(t)$ itself cannot change, what I think is nonsense. Since:



    $$beginpmatrix 1 \ 0 \ 0 endpmatrix + beginpmatrix 0 \ 1 \ 0 endpmatrix times t = beginpmatrix 1 \ t \ 0 endpmatrix $$



    But maybe I am just wrong.
    Now, I am further wondering in how far $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$ leads to a circular motion and how to proof this using Netwons laws and calculus? Can you explain why a circle is created, if you let the time tick?










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      Here is a mathematical proof that any force $F(t)$, which affects a body, so that $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$, where $v(t)$ is its velocity cannot change the amount of this velocity.



      Further, there is stated that $vecv(t)$ itself cannot change, what I think is nonsense. Since:



      $$beginpmatrix 1 \ 0 \ 0 endpmatrix + beginpmatrix 0 \ 1 \ 0 endpmatrix times t = beginpmatrix 1 \ t \ 0 endpmatrix $$



      But maybe I am just wrong.
      Now, I am further wondering in how far $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$ leads to a circular motion and how to proof this using Netwons laws and calculus? Can you explain why a circle is created, if you let the time tick?










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      Here is a mathematical proof that any force $F(t)$, which affects a body, so that $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$, where $v(t)$ is its velocity cannot change the amount of this velocity.



      Further, there is stated that $vecv(t)$ itself cannot change, what I think is nonsense. Since:



      $$beginpmatrix 1 \ 0 \ 0 endpmatrix + beginpmatrix 0 \ 1 \ 0 endpmatrix times t = beginpmatrix 1 \ t \ 0 endpmatrix $$



      But maybe I am just wrong.
      Now, I am further wondering in how far $vecF(t) cdot vecv(t) = 0$ leads to a circular motion and how to proof this using Netwons laws and calculus? Can you explain why a circle is created, if you let the time tick?







      calculus circles physics






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          Let the velocity vector be defined as $v(t) = (s cos( theta(t)), s sin (theta(t))$, where $theta(t)$ is a time varying quantity. Note that $s$ is a constant, since we have already proved that the speed of the velocity vector does not change.



          Let the force vector be defined as $F(t) = (r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t))$ where $r(t)$ and $phi(t)$ are time varying quantities.



          Now, we know that $F . v = 0$. Hence:



          beginalign*
          &r(t) s left[cos(theta(t))cos(phi(t)) + sin(theta(t))sin(phi(t)) right] = 0 \
          &r(t)s[cos(theta(t) - phi(t))] = 0 quad text(since $cos(a - b) = cos a cos b + sin a sin b)$
          endalign*



          Let us assume that $r(t), s neq 0$ for the moment. If they are, then the problem reduces to trivial cases. So, this now means that $cos(theta(t) - phi(t)) = 0$, or $theta(t) - phi(t) = pi /2$. Hence, $ theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t) $.



          Next, let us assume the mass of the body is 1 (otherwise, we will need to carry a factor of $m$ everywhere which is annoying and adds no real insight), and hence $F = fracdvdt$.



          beginalign*
          &F = fracdvdt \
          &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
          fracd left(s cos (theta(t)), s sin (theta(t)) right)dt \
          %
          &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
          left(-s sin (theta(t)) theta'(t), s cos (theta(t)) theta'(t) right)
          quad text(Differentiating with respect to $t$)
          \
          %
          &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
          left(-s sin (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t), s cos (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t) right)quad text($theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t)$) \
          %
          &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
          left(-stheta'(t) cos (phi(t)) , -stheta'(t) sin (phi(t)) right)quad \
          %
          endalign*

          Comparing the LHS and the RHs, we conclude that $r(t) = -s theta'(t)$.



          If we are interested in uniform circular motion, then we would set $theta'(t)$ to a constant and proceed to solve the system as described on wikipedia



          For non-uniform circular motion, I don't know off-hand how to solve the system of equations, but I presume it is possible. I'll update the answer once I go look it up






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            Since $$ vecF = mdvecvover dt =mcdot vecv'$$



            so $$vecv'cdot vecv =0implies (vecv^2)' = 0 implies vecv^2 = constant$$



            So $$|vecv|^2 = constantimplies |vecv| = constant_2$$



            So the magnitude of velocity is constant, but not the velocity it self.






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              Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
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              In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
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              Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
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              Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
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            Try to think like this: the component of the force parallel to the velocity changes the module of the velocity, while component perpendicular to the velocity changes its direction. Since you have only a perpendicular component, the velocity will stay constant in module while changing its direction. Now, if your force rotationally symmetric and is parallel to $vecs$, you also have that $vecs$ and $vecv$ are perpendicular. Therefore by the same euristic argument as before we can say that $vecs$ will only change its direction and not its module. This is exactly like saying that the trajectory is a circle






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              Let the velocity vector be defined as $v(t) = (s cos( theta(t)), s sin (theta(t))$, where $theta(t)$ is a time varying quantity. Note that $s$ is a constant, since we have already proved that the speed of the velocity vector does not change.



              Let the force vector be defined as $F(t) = (r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t))$ where $r(t)$ and $phi(t)$ are time varying quantities.



              Now, we know that $F . v = 0$. Hence:



              beginalign*
              &r(t) s left[cos(theta(t))cos(phi(t)) + sin(theta(t))sin(phi(t)) right] = 0 \
              &r(t)s[cos(theta(t) - phi(t))] = 0 quad text(since $cos(a - b) = cos a cos b + sin a sin b)$
              endalign*



              Let us assume that $r(t), s neq 0$ for the moment. If they are, then the problem reduces to trivial cases. So, this now means that $cos(theta(t) - phi(t)) = 0$, or $theta(t) - phi(t) = pi /2$. Hence, $ theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t) $.



              Next, let us assume the mass of the body is 1 (otherwise, we will need to carry a factor of $m$ everywhere which is annoying and adds no real insight), and hence $F = fracdvdt$.



              beginalign*
              &F = fracdvdt \
              &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
              fracd left(s cos (theta(t)), s sin (theta(t)) right)dt \
              %
              &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
              left(-s sin (theta(t)) theta'(t), s cos (theta(t)) theta'(t) right)
              quad text(Differentiating with respect to $t$)
              \
              %
              &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
              left(-s sin (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t), s cos (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t) right)quad text($theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t)$) \
              %
              &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
              left(-stheta'(t) cos (phi(t)) , -stheta'(t) sin (phi(t)) right)quad \
              %
              endalign*

              Comparing the LHS and the RHs, we conclude that $r(t) = -s theta'(t)$.



              If we are interested in uniform circular motion, then we would set $theta'(t)$ to a constant and proceed to solve the system as described on wikipedia



              For non-uniform circular motion, I don't know off-hand how to solve the system of equations, but I presume it is possible. I'll update the answer once I go look it up






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                Let the velocity vector be defined as $v(t) = (s cos( theta(t)), s sin (theta(t))$, where $theta(t)$ is a time varying quantity. Note that $s$ is a constant, since we have already proved that the speed of the velocity vector does not change.



                Let the force vector be defined as $F(t) = (r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t))$ where $r(t)$ and $phi(t)$ are time varying quantities.



                Now, we know that $F . v = 0$. Hence:



                beginalign*
                &r(t) s left[cos(theta(t))cos(phi(t)) + sin(theta(t))sin(phi(t)) right] = 0 \
                &r(t)s[cos(theta(t) - phi(t))] = 0 quad text(since $cos(a - b) = cos a cos b + sin a sin b)$
                endalign*



                Let us assume that $r(t), s neq 0$ for the moment. If they are, then the problem reduces to trivial cases. So, this now means that $cos(theta(t) - phi(t)) = 0$, or $theta(t) - phi(t) = pi /2$. Hence, $ theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t) $.



                Next, let us assume the mass of the body is 1 (otherwise, we will need to carry a factor of $m$ everywhere which is annoying and adds no real insight), and hence $F = fracdvdt$.



                beginalign*
                &F = fracdvdt \
                &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                fracd left(s cos (theta(t)), s sin (theta(t)) right)dt \
                %
                &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                left(-s sin (theta(t)) theta'(t), s cos (theta(t)) theta'(t) right)
                quad text(Differentiating with respect to $t$)
                \
                %
                &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                left(-s sin (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t), s cos (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t) right)quad text($theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t)$) \
                %
                &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                left(-stheta'(t) cos (phi(t)) , -stheta'(t) sin (phi(t)) right)quad \
                %
                endalign*

                Comparing the LHS and the RHs, we conclude that $r(t) = -s theta'(t)$.



                If we are interested in uniform circular motion, then we would set $theta'(t)$ to a constant and proceed to solve the system as described on wikipedia



                For non-uniform circular motion, I don't know off-hand how to solve the system of equations, but I presume it is possible. I'll update the answer once I go look it up






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                  Let the velocity vector be defined as $v(t) = (s cos( theta(t)), s sin (theta(t))$, where $theta(t)$ is a time varying quantity. Note that $s$ is a constant, since we have already proved that the speed of the velocity vector does not change.



                  Let the force vector be defined as $F(t) = (r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t))$ where $r(t)$ and $phi(t)$ are time varying quantities.



                  Now, we know that $F . v = 0$. Hence:



                  beginalign*
                  &r(t) s left[cos(theta(t))cos(phi(t)) + sin(theta(t))sin(phi(t)) right] = 0 \
                  &r(t)s[cos(theta(t) - phi(t))] = 0 quad text(since $cos(a - b) = cos a cos b + sin a sin b)$
                  endalign*



                  Let us assume that $r(t), s neq 0$ for the moment. If they are, then the problem reduces to trivial cases. So, this now means that $cos(theta(t) - phi(t)) = 0$, or $theta(t) - phi(t) = pi /2$. Hence, $ theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t) $.



                  Next, let us assume the mass of the body is 1 (otherwise, we will need to carry a factor of $m$ everywhere which is annoying and adds no real insight), and hence $F = fracdvdt$.



                  beginalign*
                  &F = fracdvdt \
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  fracd left(s cos (theta(t)), s sin (theta(t)) right)dt \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-s sin (theta(t)) theta'(t), s cos (theta(t)) theta'(t) right)
                  quad text(Differentiating with respect to $t$)
                  \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-s sin (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t), s cos (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t) right)quad text($theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t)$) \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-stheta'(t) cos (phi(t)) , -stheta'(t) sin (phi(t)) right)quad \
                  %
                  endalign*

                  Comparing the LHS and the RHs, we conclude that $r(t) = -s theta'(t)$.



                  If we are interested in uniform circular motion, then we would set $theta'(t)$ to a constant and proceed to solve the system as described on wikipedia



                  For non-uniform circular motion, I don't know off-hand how to solve the system of equations, but I presume it is possible. I'll update the answer once I go look it up






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                  Let the velocity vector be defined as $v(t) = (s cos( theta(t)), s sin (theta(t))$, where $theta(t)$ is a time varying quantity. Note that $s$ is a constant, since we have already proved that the speed of the velocity vector does not change.



                  Let the force vector be defined as $F(t) = (r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t))$ where $r(t)$ and $phi(t)$ are time varying quantities.



                  Now, we know that $F . v = 0$. Hence:



                  beginalign*
                  &r(t) s left[cos(theta(t))cos(phi(t)) + sin(theta(t))sin(phi(t)) right] = 0 \
                  &r(t)s[cos(theta(t) - phi(t))] = 0 quad text(since $cos(a - b) = cos a cos b + sin a sin b)$
                  endalign*



                  Let us assume that $r(t), s neq 0$ for the moment. If they are, then the problem reduces to trivial cases. So, this now means that $cos(theta(t) - phi(t)) = 0$, or $theta(t) - phi(t) = pi /2$. Hence, $ theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t) $.



                  Next, let us assume the mass of the body is 1 (otherwise, we will need to carry a factor of $m$ everywhere which is annoying and adds no real insight), and hence $F = fracdvdt$.



                  beginalign*
                  &F = fracdvdt \
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  fracd left(s cos (theta(t)), s sin (theta(t)) right)dt \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-s sin (theta(t)) theta'(t), s cos (theta(t)) theta'(t) right)
                  quad text(Differentiating with respect to $t$)
                  \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-s sin (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t), s cos (pi/2 + phi(t)) theta'(t) right)quad text($theta(t) = pi/2 + phi(t)$) \
                  %
                  &(r(t) cos(phi(t)), r(t) sin(phi(t)) =
                  left(-stheta'(t) cos (phi(t)) , -stheta'(t) sin (phi(t)) right)quad \
                  %
                  endalign*

                  Comparing the LHS and the RHs, we conclude that $r(t) = -s theta'(t)$.



                  If we are interested in uniform circular motion, then we would set $theta'(t)$ to a constant and proceed to solve the system as described on wikipedia



                  For non-uniform circular motion, I don't know off-hand how to solve the system of equations, but I presume it is possible. I'll update the answer once I go look it up







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                      Since $$ vecF = mdvecvover dt =mcdot vecv'$$



                      so $$vecv'cdot vecv =0implies (vecv^2)' = 0 implies vecv^2 = constant$$



                      So $$|vecv|^2 = constantimplies |vecv| = constant_2$$



                      So the magnitude of velocity is constant, but not the velocity it self.






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                        Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
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                        In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
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                        Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
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                        – Maria Mazur
                        Mar 30 at 11:14










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                        I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
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                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 11:16










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                        Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
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                      Since $$ vecF = mdvecvover dt =mcdot vecv'$$



                      so $$vecv'cdot vecv =0implies (vecv^2)' = 0 implies vecv^2 = constant$$



                      So $$|vecv|^2 = constantimplies |vecv| = constant_2$$



                      So the magnitude of velocity is constant, but not the velocity it self.






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                        Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
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                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 10:44











                      • $begingroup$
                        In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
                        $endgroup$
                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 11:10










                      • $begingroup$
                        Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
                        $endgroup$
                        – Maria Mazur
                        Mar 30 at 11:14










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
                        $endgroup$
                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 11:16










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                        Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
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                        – Berci
                        Mar 30 at 11:34













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                      Since $$ vecF = mdvecvover dt =mcdot vecv'$$



                      so $$vecv'cdot vecv =0implies (vecv^2)' = 0 implies vecv^2 = constant$$



                      So $$|vecv|^2 = constantimplies |vecv| = constant_2$$



                      So the magnitude of velocity is constant, but not the velocity it self.






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                      Since $$ vecF = mdvecvover dt =mcdot vecv'$$



                      so $$vecv'cdot vecv =0implies (vecv^2)' = 0 implies vecv^2 = constant$$



                      So $$|vecv|^2 = constantimplies |vecv| = constant_2$$



                      So the magnitude of velocity is constant, but not the velocity it self.







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                        Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
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                        – TVSuchty
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                        In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
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                        Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
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                        – Maria Mazur
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                        I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
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                        Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
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                        – Berci
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                      • $begingroup$
                        Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
                        $endgroup$
                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 10:44











                      • $begingroup$
                        In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
                        $endgroup$
                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 11:10










                      • $begingroup$
                        Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
                        $endgroup$
                        – Maria Mazur
                        Mar 30 at 11:14










                      • $begingroup$
                        I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
                        $endgroup$
                        – TVSuchty
                        Mar 30 at 11:16










                      • $begingroup$
                        Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Berci
                        Mar 30 at 11:34















                      $begingroup$
                      Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 10:44





                      $begingroup$
                      Sure, but this does not explain the circle which is created by $vecs(t)$, does it?
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 10:44













                      $begingroup$
                      In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 11:10




                      $begingroup$
                      In the other prove s is defined to be the velocity squared. In physics generally the position is meant...
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 11:10












                      $begingroup$
                      Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Maria Mazur
                      Mar 30 at 11:14




                      $begingroup$
                      Well, I'm not sure, but I think that what there was said s^2=vv is not true. It sholud be v =s ′, no?
                      $endgroup$
                      – Maria Mazur
                      Mar 30 at 11:14












                      $begingroup$
                      I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 11:16




                      $begingroup$
                      I think I answered this already in my last comment. I assume a merge-conflict here...
                      $endgroup$
                      – TVSuchty
                      Mar 30 at 11:16












                      $begingroup$
                      Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Berci
                      Mar 30 at 11:34




                      $begingroup$
                      Any curve can be walked through by constant speed.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Berci
                      Mar 30 at 11:34











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                      Try to think like this: the component of the force parallel to the velocity changes the module of the velocity, while component perpendicular to the velocity changes its direction. Since you have only a perpendicular component, the velocity will stay constant in module while changing its direction. Now, if your force rotationally symmetric and is parallel to $vecs$, you also have that $vecs$ and $vecv$ are perpendicular. Therefore by the same euristic argument as before we can say that $vecs$ will only change its direction and not its module. This is exactly like saying that the trajectory is a circle






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                        Try to think like this: the component of the force parallel to the velocity changes the module of the velocity, while component perpendicular to the velocity changes its direction. Since you have only a perpendicular component, the velocity will stay constant in module while changing its direction. Now, if your force rotationally symmetric and is parallel to $vecs$, you also have that $vecs$ and $vecv$ are perpendicular. Therefore by the same euristic argument as before we can say that $vecs$ will only change its direction and not its module. This is exactly like saying that the trajectory is a circle






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                          Try to think like this: the component of the force parallel to the velocity changes the module of the velocity, while component perpendicular to the velocity changes its direction. Since you have only a perpendicular component, the velocity will stay constant in module while changing its direction. Now, if your force rotationally symmetric and is parallel to $vecs$, you also have that $vecs$ and $vecv$ are perpendicular. Therefore by the same euristic argument as before we can say that $vecs$ will only change its direction and not its module. This is exactly like saying that the trajectory is a circle






                          share|cite|improve this answer









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                          Try to think like this: the component of the force parallel to the velocity changes the module of the velocity, while component perpendicular to the velocity changes its direction. Since you have only a perpendicular component, the velocity will stay constant in module while changing its direction. Now, if your force rotationally symmetric and is parallel to $vecs$, you also have that $vecs$ and $vecv$ are perpendicular. Therefore by the same euristic argument as before we can say that $vecs$ will only change its direction and not its module. This is exactly like saying that the trajectory is a circle







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