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How to write this inequality in terms of Schur Complement?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of tracesRatio of two quadratic vector formsDeterminant of Schur Complementtransforming nonlinear matrix inequality to LMIProving that $L_22L_22^T=S$ is the Schur complement of a Cholesky factorizationSemidefinite programming formulation for a simple minimizationBlock inversion when Schur-complement is zeroProving matrix factorization using Schur complementUse Schur complement to show that $ 1^TD1 ge 0$Searching an analogues for Schur complementCan an upperbound constraint on the squared Frobenius norm of a matrix be expressed as a linear matrix inequality?Performing the Schur complement twice










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I know the basis about Schur-Complement. Anyway, while looking at this inequality to apply it in order to solve for $lambda$ such that the the matrix is definite positive, I got a little bit confused because the lack of non inverse terms.



$ X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X<-lambda X ^ T AX$



May I... ?



$beginbmatrix 0 & X \ X ^ T & left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) ^ -1 endbmatrix$



Or,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) X & P \ P & 0 endbmatrix$



Or even,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X & X \ X ^ T & -lambda A ^ -1 endbmatrix$



I'm sorry if this is a silly or even stupid question, but i'm lost :(
Any references, books, or examples that You could recommend me?










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    1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 9:37










  • $begingroup$
    Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
    $endgroup$
    – Francisco Mendoza
    Apr 1 at 19:26










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    Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
    $endgroup$
    – Kwin van der Veen
    Apr 3 at 15:15
















0












$begingroup$


I know the basis about Schur-Complement. Anyway, while looking at this inequality to apply it in order to solve for $lambda$ such that the the matrix is definite positive, I got a little bit confused because the lack of non inverse terms.



$ X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X<-lambda X ^ T AX$



May I... ?



$beginbmatrix 0 & X \ X ^ T & left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) ^ -1 endbmatrix$



Or,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) X & P \ P & 0 endbmatrix$



Or even,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X & X \ X ^ T & -lambda A ^ -1 endbmatrix$



I'm sorry if this is a silly or even stupid question, but i'm lost :(
Any references, books, or examples that You could recommend me?










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 9:37










  • $begingroup$
    Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
    $endgroup$
    – Francisco Mendoza
    Apr 1 at 19:26










  • $begingroup$
    Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
    $endgroup$
    – Kwin van der Veen
    Apr 3 at 15:15














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0





$begingroup$


I know the basis about Schur-Complement. Anyway, while looking at this inequality to apply it in order to solve for $lambda$ such that the the matrix is definite positive, I got a little bit confused because the lack of non inverse terms.



$ X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X<-lambda X ^ T AX$



May I... ?



$beginbmatrix 0 & X \ X ^ T & left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) ^ -1 endbmatrix$



Or,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) X & P \ P & 0 endbmatrix$



Or even,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X & X \ X ^ T & -lambda A ^ -1 endbmatrix$



I'm sorry if this is a silly or even stupid question, but i'm lost :(
Any references, books, or examples that You could recommend me?










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$




I know the basis about Schur-Complement. Anyway, while looking at this inequality to apply it in order to solve for $lambda$ such that the the matrix is definite positive, I got a little bit confused because the lack of non inverse terms.



$ X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X<-lambda X ^ T AX$



May I... ?



$beginbmatrix 0 & X \ X ^ T & left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) ^ -1 endbmatrix$



Or,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P+lambda A right) X & P \ P & 0 endbmatrix$



Or even,



$beginbmatrix X ^ T left( PA+ A ^ T P right) X & X \ X ^ T & -lambda A ^ -1 endbmatrix$



I'm sorry if this is a silly or even stupid question, but i'm lost :(
Any references, books, or examples that You could recommend me?







lmis schur-complement






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  • $begingroup$
    1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 9:37










  • $begingroup$
    Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
    $endgroup$
    – Francisco Mendoza
    Apr 1 at 19:26










  • $begingroup$
    Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
    $endgroup$
    – Kwin van der Veen
    Apr 3 at 15:15

















  • $begingroup$
    1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 9:37










  • $begingroup$
    Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Apr 1 at 17:33










  • $begingroup$
    The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
    $endgroup$
    – Francisco Mendoza
    Apr 1 at 19:26










  • $begingroup$
    Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
    $endgroup$
    – Kwin van der Veen
    Apr 3 at 15:15
















$begingroup$
1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 1 at 9:37




$begingroup$
1) Which matrix should be definite positive ? 2) What are the dimensions of your matrices ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 1 at 9:37












$begingroup$
Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 1 at 17:33




$begingroup$
Could you answer my questions and/or say if my answer brings something to you ?
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Apr 1 at 17:33












$begingroup$
The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
$endgroup$
– Francisco Mendoza
Apr 1 at 19:26




$begingroup$
The only thing my professor gave us is A, a 3x3 matrix, and that $x^T·x=||x||^2$ :( A'm sorry if it's pretty ambiguous :( The mean objective to use S-Complement, is to use YALMIP over MATLAB to solve for $lambda$; at least that's what I understood. If you need more information, please list it, and I will ask my professor if there is any missing information. Thanks in advance!
$endgroup$
– Francisco Mendoza
Apr 1 at 19:26












$begingroup$
Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
$endgroup$
– Kwin van der Veen
Apr 3 at 15:15





$begingroup$
Is $lambda$ your only unknown because that is the only variable you want to solve for? If that is the case then your first equation is already a LMI.
$endgroup$
– Kwin van der Veen
Apr 3 at 15:15











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I don't see the point of using Schur's complements here.



In fact, looking for $lambda$ satisfying inequality



$$X^Tleft( PA+A^TP right) X<-lambda X^TAXtag1$$



is the same as looking for the bounds of



$$dfracX^TBXX^TAX textwhere B:=PA+A^TP tag2$$



which is a classical issue :



If $A$ is positive-definite, consider a Cholesky decomposition $A=C^TC$, set $Y=CX$, transforming (2) into the Rayleigh quotient :



$$dfracYC^-TBC^-1YY^TY $$



which is known to take all values in interval $[lambda_min,lambda_max]$
where $lambda_min,lambda_max$ are the extreme eigenvalues of matrix $D:=C^-TBC^-1$.



Connected :



Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of traces



Ratio of two quadratic vector forms






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    I don't see the point of using Schur's complements here.



    In fact, looking for $lambda$ satisfying inequality



    $$X^Tleft( PA+A^TP right) X<-lambda X^TAXtag1$$



    is the same as looking for the bounds of



    $$dfracX^TBXX^TAX textwhere B:=PA+A^TP tag2$$



    which is a classical issue :



    If $A$ is positive-definite, consider a Cholesky decomposition $A=C^TC$, set $Y=CX$, transforming (2) into the Rayleigh quotient :



    $$dfracYC^-TBC^-1YY^TY $$



    which is known to take all values in interval $[lambda_min,lambda_max]$
    where $lambda_min,lambda_max$ are the extreme eigenvalues of matrix $D:=C^-TBC^-1$.



    Connected :



    Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of traces



    Ratio of two quadratic vector forms






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      $begingroup$

      I don't see the point of using Schur's complements here.



      In fact, looking for $lambda$ satisfying inequality



      $$X^Tleft( PA+A^TP right) X<-lambda X^TAXtag1$$



      is the same as looking for the bounds of



      $$dfracX^TBXX^TAX textwhere B:=PA+A^TP tag2$$



      which is a classical issue :



      If $A$ is positive-definite, consider a Cholesky decomposition $A=C^TC$, set $Y=CX$, transforming (2) into the Rayleigh quotient :



      $$dfracYC^-TBC^-1YY^TY $$



      which is known to take all values in interval $[lambda_min,lambda_max]$
      where $lambda_min,lambda_max$ are the extreme eigenvalues of matrix $D:=C^-TBC^-1$.



      Connected :



      Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of traces



      Ratio of two quadratic vector forms






      share|cite|improve this answer











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        $begingroup$

        I don't see the point of using Schur's complements here.



        In fact, looking for $lambda$ satisfying inequality



        $$X^Tleft( PA+A^TP right) X<-lambda X^TAXtag1$$



        is the same as looking for the bounds of



        $$dfracX^TBXX^TAX textwhere B:=PA+A^TP tag2$$



        which is a classical issue :



        If $A$ is positive-definite, consider a Cholesky decomposition $A=C^TC$, set $Y=CX$, transforming (2) into the Rayleigh quotient :



        $$dfracYC^-TBC^-1YY^TY $$



        which is known to take all values in interval $[lambda_min,lambda_max]$
        where $lambda_min,lambda_max$ are the extreme eigenvalues of matrix $D:=C^-TBC^-1$.



        Connected :



        Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of traces



        Ratio of two quadratic vector forms






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        I don't see the point of using Schur's complements here.



        In fact, looking for $lambda$ satisfying inequality



        $$X^Tleft( PA+A^TP right) X<-lambda X^TAXtag1$$



        is the same as looking for the bounds of



        $$dfracX^TBXX^TAX textwhere B:=PA+A^TP tag2$$



        which is a classical issue :



        If $A$ is positive-definite, consider a Cholesky decomposition $A=C^TC$, set $Y=CX$, transforming (2) into the Rayleigh quotient :



        $$dfracYC^-TBC^-1YY^TY $$



        which is known to take all values in interval $[lambda_min,lambda_max]$
        where $lambda_min,lambda_max$ are the extreme eigenvalues of matrix $D:=C^-TBC^-1$.



        Connected :



        Proof: Ratio of matrix traces and difference of traces



        Ratio of two quadratic vector forms







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