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Sylvester rank inequality: $operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n$


Rank of matrices, prove inequalityHow to prove and interpret $operatornamerank(AB) leq operatornamemin(operatornamerank(A), operatornamerank(B))$?rank(AB) = rank(A) if B is invertibleprove that $textrank(AB)getextrank(A)+textrank(B)-n.$Matrices and rank inequalityHow to show that $Rank(AB)geq Rank(A)+Rank(B)-n$Proof of Sylvester rank inequalityFor nonzeros $A,B,Cin M_n(mathbbR)$, $ABC=0$. Show $operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)+operatornamerank(C)le 2n$Let A be $ m times n$ and $B$ be $n times p$, and suppose $AB = 0$. Explain why $mathrmrank(A) + mathrmrank(B) leq n.$Linear transformation over two vector spacesShow that $operatornamerank(A+B) leq operatornamerank(A) + operatornamerank(B)$On the rank inequality $operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(A^3)geq2operatornamerank(A^2)$Rank of the product of two full rank matricesSimultaneous Rank MinimizationProof that $operatornamerank(SAT)= operatornamerank(A)$Prove that $operatornamerank (f) + operatornamerank (g) -dim Wleq operatornamerank(gcirc f)$.How to prove $operatornamerank(XGY^T) = operatornamerank(G)$?Prove that $det(AB-BA)=0$Can the limit of a sequence of matrices of fixed rank have higher rank?Does $operatornamerank (A^2) = operatornamerank (A)$ for any matrix $Ain operatornameMat_n times n$?













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If $A$ and $B$ are two matrices of the same order $n$, then
$$ operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n. $$




I don't know how to start proving this inequality. I would be very pleased if someone helps me. Thanks!



Edit I. Rank of $A$ is the same of the equivalent matrix $A' =beginpmatrixI_r & 0 \ 0 & 0endpmatrix$. Analogously for $B$, ranks of $A$ and $B$ are $r,sleq n$. Hence, since $operatornamerankAB = minr,s$, then $r+sleq minr,s + n$. (This is not correct since $operatornamerank AB leq minr,s$.



Edit II. A discussion on the rank of a product of $H_f(A)$ and $H_c(B)$ would correct this, but I don't know how to formalize that $operatornamerankH_f(A) +operatornamerankH_c(B) - n leq operatornamerank[H_f(A)H_c(B)]$.










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If $A$ and $B$ are two matrices of the same order $n$, then
$$ operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n. $$




I don't know how to start proving this inequality. I would be very pleased if someone helps me. Thanks!



Edit I. Rank of $A$ is the same of the equivalent matrix $A' =beginpmatrixI_r & 0 \ 0 & 0endpmatrix$. Analogously for $B$, ranks of $A$ and $B$ are $r,sleq n$. Hence, since $operatornamerankAB = minr,s$, then $r+sleq minr,s + n$. (This is not correct since $operatornamerank AB leq minr,s$.



Edit II. A discussion on the rank of a product of $H_f(A)$ and $H_c(B)$ would correct this, but I don't know how to formalize that $operatornamerankH_f(A) +operatornamerankH_c(B) - n leq operatornamerank[H_f(A)H_c(B)]$.










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If $A$ and $B$ are two matrices of the same order $n$, then
$$ operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n. $$




I don't know how to start proving this inequality. I would be very pleased if someone helps me. Thanks!



Edit I. Rank of $A$ is the same of the equivalent matrix $A' =beginpmatrixI_r & 0 \ 0 & 0endpmatrix$. Analogously for $B$, ranks of $A$ and $B$ are $r,sleq n$. Hence, since $operatornamerankAB = minr,s$, then $r+sleq minr,s + n$. (This is not correct since $operatornamerank AB leq minr,s$.



Edit II. A discussion on the rank of a product of $H_f(A)$ and $H_c(B)$ would correct this, but I don't know how to formalize that $operatornamerankH_f(A) +operatornamerankH_c(B) - n leq operatornamerank[H_f(A)H_c(B)]$.










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If $A$ and $B$ are two matrices of the same order $n$, then
$$ operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n. $$




I don't know how to start proving this inequality. I would be very pleased if someone helps me. Thanks!



Edit I. Rank of $A$ is the same of the equivalent matrix $A' =beginpmatrixI_r & 0 \ 0 & 0endpmatrix$. Analogously for $B$, ranks of $A$ and $B$ are $r,sleq n$. Hence, since $operatornamerankAB = minr,s$, then $r+sleq minr,s + n$. (This is not correct since $operatornamerank AB leq minr,s$.



Edit II. A discussion on the rank of a product of $H_f(A)$ and $H_c(B)$ would correct this, but I don't know how to formalize that $operatornamerankH_f(A) +operatornamerankH_c(B) - n leq operatornamerank[H_f(A)H_c(B)]$.







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Subtract $2n$ from both sides and then multiply by $-1$; this gives the equivalent inequality $defrkoperatornamerank(n-rk A)+(n-rk B)geq n-rk(AB)$. In other words (by the rank-nullity theorem) we must show that the sums of the dimensions of the kernels of $A$ and of $B$ gives at least the dimension of the kernel of $AB$. Intuititively vectors that get killed by $AB$ either get killed by $B$ or (later) by $A$, and the dimension of $ker(AB)$ therefore cannot exceed $dimker A+dimker B$. Here is how to make that precise.



One has $ker Bsubseteq ker(AB)$, so if one restricts (the linear map with matrix) $B$ to $ker(AB)$, giving a map $tilde B:ker(AB)to K^n$, one sees that $ker(tilde B)=ker(B)$ (both inclusions are obvious). Since the image of $tilde B$ is contained in $ker A$ by the definition of $ker(AB)$, one has $rktilde Bleqdimker A$. Now rank-nullity applied to $tilde B$ gives $$dimker(AB)=dimkertilde B+rktilde Bleqdimker B+dimker A,$$ as desired.






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    i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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    Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
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    @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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As left or right multiplications by invertible matrices (and in particular, elementary matrices) don't change the rank of a matrix, we may assume WLOG that $A=pmatrixI_r&0\ 0&0$. Therefore,
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operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)
&=operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB+(I-A)B)\
&leoperatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB)+operatornamerank((I-A)B)\
&le r+operatornamerank(AB)+(n-r)\
&=operatornamerank(AB)+n.
endalign*
The last but one line is due to the fact that the first $r$ rows of $(I-A)B$ are zero.






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    @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
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    @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
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    @Vim It is the identity matrix.
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    @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
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$$n+r(AB)=r(M)=r beginpmatrix
I_n & 0 \
0 & AB
endpmatrix$$
Using generalized elementary transformation to $M$:
$$M=beginpmatrix
I_n & 0 \
0 & AB
endpmatrix
to beginpmatrix
I_n & 0 \
A & AB
endpmatrix
to beginpmatrix
I_n & -B \
A & 0
endpmatrix
to beginpmatrix
B & I_n \
0 & A
endpmatrix,$$
hence
$$n+r(AB)=r(M)=
rbeginpmatrix
B & I_n \
0 & A
endpmatrixgeq r(A)+r(B):$$



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    Denote by $r(A)$ the rank of $A$ and by $n(A)$ the nullity of $A$, i.e. the dimension of the nullspace of $A$. The rank plus nullity theorem says that
    $r(A)+n(A)=n$ and $r(B)+n(B)=n$ and so $2n= r(A)+r(B)+n(A)+n(B)$.



    Let $N(A)$ be the nullspace of $A$ and $R(B)$ the range-space of $B$.
    Then $r(AB)=n - n(B)- dim(N(A) cap R(B))$ (try proving this, hint: what is the nullspace of $AB$?). This gives $n = r(AB) +n(B)+ n(N(A) cap R(B))$ and so $n + r(AB) = r(A)+r(B) +n(A) - n(N(A) cap R(B)) ge
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      Let $T:Vto W, S:Wto V$ be linear transformations which correspond to $A,B$. Equivalently we want prove that $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$ also similarly show that $$dim ker(T) + dim ker(S) gt dim ker(TS).$$ I know that $ker (S) subset ker (TS)$. Let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be a base for $ker (S)$; expand this base for $ker(ST)$ to $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r,a_r+1,a_r+2,ldots,a_s$ and then show that $S(a_r+1), S(a_r+2),ldots,S(a_s)$ are a set of independent elements s.t. $S(a_i)in ker (T) , forall i:r+1,ldots,s$ and indicate $ker (T) ge s-r,$ so $dim ker T+ dim ker Sge s-r+r=dim ker TS$. $$ 1.dim ker T+ dim ker Sge dim ker TS$$ $$2.dim ker T+r(T)=n$$ $$3.dim ker S T+r(S)=n$$ $$4.dim ker TS+r(TS)=n.$$ By 1, 2, 3, 4 easily conclude $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$.






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        I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
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        @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
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        That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
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      In response to Mr. Albanese's correct critique. I submit the following. The rank of A,B is in the set of integers [0,n]. Assume we know the relatively straigtfoward proofs that rank(AB)<= min(rank(A),rank(B)), -> rank(AB) = n if rank(A) and rank(B) have rank n. There are three rank possibilities. Let the rank of A = p, the rank of B = q with p,q integers. Then (p or q < n) or (p and q < n) or (p=q=n). The first two cases imply (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n) or (p+q < min(p,q) + n) as p+q < 2n and (rank(A) + rank(B) > rank(AB) + n) is a contradiction. This is a contrapositive proof of the strict inequality in the Sylvester theorem (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n). For the equality case p=q=n. Then (rank(A) + rank(B) = rank(AB)) + n) or n + n = n + n which is true because rank(A) and rank(B) have full rank, n, implies rank(AB)=n.






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        This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
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        I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
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      Subtract $2n$ from both sides and then multiply by $-1$; this gives the equivalent inequality $defrkoperatornamerank(n-rk A)+(n-rk B)geq n-rk(AB)$. In other words (by the rank-nullity theorem) we must show that the sums of the dimensions of the kernels of $A$ and of $B$ gives at least the dimension of the kernel of $AB$. Intuititively vectors that get killed by $AB$ either get killed by $B$ or (later) by $A$, and the dimension of $ker(AB)$ therefore cannot exceed $dimker A+dimker B$. Here is how to make that precise.



      One has $ker Bsubseteq ker(AB)$, so if one restricts (the linear map with matrix) $B$ to $ker(AB)$, giving a map $tilde B:ker(AB)to K^n$, one sees that $ker(tilde B)=ker(B)$ (both inclusions are obvious). Since the image of $tilde B$ is contained in $ker A$ by the definition of $ker(AB)$, one has $rktilde Bleqdimker A$. Now rank-nullity applied to $tilde B$ gives $$dimker(AB)=dimkertilde B+rktilde Bleqdimker B+dimker A,$$ as desired.






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        i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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        Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
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        @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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      Subtract $2n$ from both sides and then multiply by $-1$; this gives the equivalent inequality $defrkoperatornamerank(n-rk A)+(n-rk B)geq n-rk(AB)$. In other words (by the rank-nullity theorem) we must show that the sums of the dimensions of the kernels of $A$ and of $B$ gives at least the dimension of the kernel of $AB$. Intuititively vectors that get killed by $AB$ either get killed by $B$ or (later) by $A$, and the dimension of $ker(AB)$ therefore cannot exceed $dimker A+dimker B$. Here is how to make that precise.



      One has $ker Bsubseteq ker(AB)$, so if one restricts (the linear map with matrix) $B$ to $ker(AB)$, giving a map $tilde B:ker(AB)to K^n$, one sees that $ker(tilde B)=ker(B)$ (both inclusions are obvious). Since the image of $tilde B$ is contained in $ker A$ by the definition of $ker(AB)$, one has $rktilde Bleqdimker A$. Now rank-nullity applied to $tilde B$ gives $$dimker(AB)=dimkertilde B+rktilde Bleqdimker B+dimker A,$$ as desired.






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      • $begingroup$
        i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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      • $begingroup$
        @jneven: As the text says, the new inequality is equivalent to the old one. It still needs to be proved, which I then do.
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        Jul 17 '18 at 11:49











      • $begingroup$
        Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
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        – Page David
        Mar 29 at 14:04










      • $begingroup$
        @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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      Subtract $2n$ from both sides and then multiply by $-1$; this gives the equivalent inequality $defrkoperatornamerank(n-rk A)+(n-rk B)geq n-rk(AB)$. In other words (by the rank-nullity theorem) we must show that the sums of the dimensions of the kernels of $A$ and of $B$ gives at least the dimension of the kernel of $AB$. Intuititively vectors that get killed by $AB$ either get killed by $B$ or (later) by $A$, and the dimension of $ker(AB)$ therefore cannot exceed $dimker A+dimker B$. Here is how to make that precise.



      One has $ker Bsubseteq ker(AB)$, so if one restricts (the linear map with matrix) $B$ to $ker(AB)$, giving a map $tilde B:ker(AB)to K^n$, one sees that $ker(tilde B)=ker(B)$ (both inclusions are obvious). Since the image of $tilde B$ is contained in $ker A$ by the definition of $ker(AB)$, one has $rktilde Bleqdimker A$. Now rank-nullity applied to $tilde B$ gives $$dimker(AB)=dimkertilde B+rktilde Bleqdimker B+dimker A,$$ as desired.






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      Subtract $2n$ from both sides and then multiply by $-1$; this gives the equivalent inequality $defrkoperatornamerank(n-rk A)+(n-rk B)geq n-rk(AB)$. In other words (by the rank-nullity theorem) we must show that the sums of the dimensions of the kernels of $A$ and of $B$ gives at least the dimension of the kernel of $AB$. Intuititively vectors that get killed by $AB$ either get killed by $B$ or (later) by $A$, and the dimension of $ker(AB)$ therefore cannot exceed $dimker A+dimker B$. Here is how to make that precise.



      One has $ker Bsubseteq ker(AB)$, so if one restricts (the linear map with matrix) $B$ to $ker(AB)$, giving a map $tilde B:ker(AB)to K^n$, one sees that $ker(tilde B)=ker(B)$ (both inclusions are obvious). Since the image of $tilde B$ is contained in $ker A$ by the definition of $ker(AB)$, one has $rktilde Bleqdimker A$. Now rank-nullity applied to $tilde B$ gives $$dimker(AB)=dimkertilde B+rktilde Bleqdimker B+dimker A,$$ as desired.







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      answered Feb 9 '13 at 21:14









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      • $begingroup$
        i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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        – Jneven
        Jul 17 '18 at 9:20











      • $begingroup$
        @jneven: As the text says, the new inequality is equivalent to the old one. It still needs to be proved, which I then do.
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        – Marc van Leeuwen
        Jul 17 '18 at 11:49











      • $begingroup$
        Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
        $endgroup$
        – Page David
        Mar 29 at 14:04










      • $begingroup$
        @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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        Mar 29 at 14:25
















      • $begingroup$
        i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
        $endgroup$
        – Jneven
        Jul 17 '18 at 9:20











      • $begingroup$
        @jneven: As the text says, the new inequality is equivalent to the old one. It still needs to be proved, which I then do.
        $endgroup$
        – Marc van Leeuwen
        Jul 17 '18 at 11:49











      • $begingroup$
        Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
        $endgroup$
        – Page David
        Mar 29 at 14:04










      • $begingroup$
        @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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        Mar 29 at 14:25















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      i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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      – Jneven
      Jul 17 '18 at 9:20





      $begingroup$
      i cant understand how or why you fixed $(n - rank(A)) + (n - rank(B))leq (n - rank(AB)) $ as according to the rank-nullity theorem, this is exactly: $N(A) + N(B) = N(AB)$, i mean, that wouldn't be correct to use $leq$
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      – Jneven
      Jul 17 '18 at 9:20













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      @jneven: As the text says, the new inequality is equivalent to the old one. It still needs to be proved, which I then do.
      $endgroup$
      – Marc van Leeuwen
      Jul 17 '18 at 11:49





      $begingroup$
      @jneven: As the text says, the new inequality is equivalent to the old one. It still needs to be proved, which I then do.
      $endgroup$
      – Marc van Leeuwen
      Jul 17 '18 at 11:49













      $begingroup$
      Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
      $endgroup$
      – Page David
      Mar 29 at 14:04




      $begingroup$
      Could you please explain a bit more detail on "restricts matrix to a map"? I searched on the web but only found "restricted to a subspace / domain". Does these have same meaning? Thanks.
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      – Page David
      Mar 29 at 14:04












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      @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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      – Marc van Leeuwen
      Mar 29 at 14:25




      $begingroup$
      @PageDavid: The restriction was meant to be to the subspace $ker(AB)$. Since that subspace was already mentioned a few words later as the domain of the restricted map $tilde B$, I had omitted it to avoid repetition. But you are right, the sentence is more readable when the subspace is explicitly mentioned, so I edited it.
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      As left or right multiplications by invertible matrices (and in particular, elementary matrices) don't change the rank of a matrix, we may assume WLOG that $A=pmatrixI_r&0\ 0&0$. Therefore,
      beginalign*
      operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)
      &=operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB+(I-A)B)\
      &leoperatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB)+operatornamerank((I-A)B)\
      &le r+operatornamerank(AB)+(n-r)\
      &=operatornamerank(AB)+n.
      endalign*
      The last but one line is due to the fact that the first $r$ rows of $(I-A)B$ are zero.






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        Nice concise proof !
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        @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
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        @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
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        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 12:43










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        @Vim It is the identity matrix.
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        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:31










      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
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        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:42















      10












      $begingroup$

      As left or right multiplications by invertible matrices (and in particular, elementary matrices) don't change the rank of a matrix, we may assume WLOG that $A=pmatrixI_r&0\ 0&0$. Therefore,
      beginalign*
      operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)
      &=operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB+(I-A)B)\
      &leoperatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB)+operatornamerank((I-A)B)\
      &le r+operatornamerank(AB)+(n-r)\
      &=operatornamerank(AB)+n.
      endalign*
      The last but one line is due to the fact that the first $r$ rows of $(I-A)B$ are zero.






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        Nice concise proof !
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        Feb 20 '15 at 8:58










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
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        Sep 7 '15 at 11:38











      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
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        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 12:43










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim It is the identity matrix.
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        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:31










      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
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        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:42













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      $begingroup$

      As left or right multiplications by invertible matrices (and in particular, elementary matrices) don't change the rank of a matrix, we may assume WLOG that $A=pmatrixI_r&0\ 0&0$. Therefore,
      beginalign*
      operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)
      &=operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB+(I-A)B)\
      &leoperatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB)+operatornamerank((I-A)B)\
      &le r+operatornamerank(AB)+(n-r)\
      &=operatornamerank(AB)+n.
      endalign*
      The last but one line is due to the fact that the first $r$ rows of $(I-A)B$ are zero.






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      As left or right multiplications by invertible matrices (and in particular, elementary matrices) don't change the rank of a matrix, we may assume WLOG that $A=pmatrixI_r&0\ 0&0$. Therefore,
      beginalign*
      operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(B)
      &=operatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB+(I-A)B)\
      &leoperatornamerank(A)+operatornamerank(AB)+operatornamerank((I-A)B)\
      &le r+operatornamerank(AB)+(n-r)\
      &=operatornamerank(AB)+n.
      endalign*
      The last but one line is due to the fact that the first $r$ rows of $(I-A)B$ are zero.







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        Nice concise proof !
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        – Gabriel Romon
        Feb 20 '15 at 8:58










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
        $endgroup$
        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 11:38











      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
        $endgroup$
        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 12:43










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim It is the identity matrix.
        $endgroup$
        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:31










      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
        $endgroup$
        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:42
















      • $begingroup$
        Nice concise proof !
        $endgroup$
        – Gabriel Romon
        Feb 20 '15 at 8:58










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
        $endgroup$
        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 11:38











      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
        $endgroup$
        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 12:43










      • $begingroup$
        @Vim It is the identity matrix.
        $endgroup$
        – user1551
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:31










      • $begingroup$
        @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
        $endgroup$
        – Vim
        Sep 7 '15 at 14:42















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      Nice concise proof !
      $endgroup$
      – Gabriel Romon
      Feb 20 '15 at 8:58




      $begingroup$
      Nice concise proof !
      $endgroup$
      – Gabriel Romon
      Feb 20 '15 at 8:58












      $begingroup$
      @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
      $endgroup$
      – user1551
      Sep 7 '15 at 11:38





      $begingroup$
      @Vim No, that's not what I did in the proof (and that equality is false anyway). You see, if $A=PtildeAQ$ where $P,Q$ are invertible and $tildeA=I_roplus0$, the inequality in question is equivalent to $r(tildeA) + r(QB) le r(tildeAQB) + n$. Let $tildeB=QB$, we can rewrite the inequality as $r(tildeA)+r(tildeB)le r(tildeAtildeB)+n$.
      $endgroup$
      – user1551
      Sep 7 '15 at 11:38













      $begingroup$
      @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
      $endgroup$
      – Vim
      Sep 7 '15 at 12:43




      $begingroup$
      @user1551 I am still a bit confused, what is $I$ in your answer? I don't think it means the identity matrix.
      $endgroup$
      – Vim
      Sep 7 '15 at 12:43












      $begingroup$
      @Vim It is the identity matrix.
      $endgroup$
      – user1551
      Sep 7 '15 at 14:31




      $begingroup$
      @Vim It is the identity matrix.
      $endgroup$
      – user1551
      Sep 7 '15 at 14:31












      $begingroup$
      @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
      $endgroup$
      – Vim
      Sep 7 '15 at 14:42




      $begingroup$
      @user1551 alright.. I thought the sylvester's inequality the OP posted was the general $mtimes stimes s times n$ case.
      $endgroup$
      – Vim
      Sep 7 '15 at 14:42











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      $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=r beginpmatrix
      I_n & 0 \
      0 & AB
      endpmatrix$$
      Using generalized elementary transformation to $M$:
      $$M=beginpmatrix
      I_n & 0 \
      0 & AB
      endpmatrix
      to beginpmatrix
      I_n & 0 \
      A & AB
      endpmatrix
      to beginpmatrix
      I_n & -B \
      A & 0
      endpmatrix
      to beginpmatrix
      B & I_n \
      0 & A
      endpmatrix,$$
      hence
      $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=
      rbeginpmatrix
      B & I_n \
      0 & A
      endpmatrixgeq r(A)+r(B):$$



      This solution is from here.






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        $begingroup$

        $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=r beginpmatrix
        I_n & 0 \
        0 & AB
        endpmatrix$$
        Using generalized elementary transformation to $M$:
        $$M=beginpmatrix
        I_n & 0 \
        0 & AB
        endpmatrix
        to beginpmatrix
        I_n & 0 \
        A & AB
        endpmatrix
        to beginpmatrix
        I_n & -B \
        A & 0
        endpmatrix
        to beginpmatrix
        B & I_n \
        0 & A
        endpmatrix,$$
        hence
        $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=
        rbeginpmatrix
        B & I_n \
        0 & A
        endpmatrixgeq r(A)+r(B):$$



        This solution is from here.






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          $begingroup$

          $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=r beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          0 & AB
          endpmatrix$$
          Using generalized elementary transformation to $M$:
          $$M=beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          0 & AB
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          A & AB
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          I_n & -B \
          A & 0
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          B & I_n \
          0 & A
          endpmatrix,$$
          hence
          $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=
          rbeginpmatrix
          B & I_n \
          0 & A
          endpmatrixgeq r(A)+r(B):$$



          This solution is from here.






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          $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=r beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          0 & AB
          endpmatrix$$
          Using generalized elementary transformation to $M$:
          $$M=beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          0 & AB
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          I_n & 0 \
          A & AB
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          I_n & -B \
          A & 0
          endpmatrix
          to beginpmatrix
          B & I_n \
          0 & A
          endpmatrix,$$
          hence
          $$n+r(AB)=r(M)=
          rbeginpmatrix
          B & I_n \
          0 & A
          endpmatrixgeq r(A)+r(B):$$



          This solution is from here.







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              $begingroup$

              Denote by $r(A)$ the rank of $A$ and by $n(A)$ the nullity of $A$, i.e. the dimension of the nullspace of $A$. The rank plus nullity theorem says that
              $r(A)+n(A)=n$ and $r(B)+n(B)=n$ and so $2n= r(A)+r(B)+n(A)+n(B)$.



              Let $N(A)$ be the nullspace of $A$ and $R(B)$ the range-space of $B$.
              Then $r(AB)=n - n(B)- dim(N(A) cap R(B))$ (try proving this, hint: what is the nullspace of $AB$?). This gives $n = r(AB) +n(B)+ n(N(A) cap R(B))$ and so $n + r(AB) = r(A)+r(B) +n(A) - n(N(A) cap R(B)) ge
              r(A)+r(B)$.






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                $begingroup$

                Denote by $r(A)$ the rank of $A$ and by $n(A)$ the nullity of $A$, i.e. the dimension of the nullspace of $A$. The rank plus nullity theorem says that
                $r(A)+n(A)=n$ and $r(B)+n(B)=n$ and so $2n= r(A)+r(B)+n(A)+n(B)$.



                Let $N(A)$ be the nullspace of $A$ and $R(B)$ the range-space of $B$.
                Then $r(AB)=n - n(B)- dim(N(A) cap R(B))$ (try proving this, hint: what is the nullspace of $AB$?). This gives $n = r(AB) +n(B)+ n(N(A) cap R(B))$ and so $n + r(AB) = r(A)+r(B) +n(A) - n(N(A) cap R(B)) ge
                r(A)+r(B)$.






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                  $begingroup$

                  Denote by $r(A)$ the rank of $A$ and by $n(A)$ the nullity of $A$, i.e. the dimension of the nullspace of $A$. The rank plus nullity theorem says that
                  $r(A)+n(A)=n$ and $r(B)+n(B)=n$ and so $2n= r(A)+r(B)+n(A)+n(B)$.



                  Let $N(A)$ be the nullspace of $A$ and $R(B)$ the range-space of $B$.
                  Then $r(AB)=n - n(B)- dim(N(A) cap R(B))$ (try proving this, hint: what is the nullspace of $AB$?). This gives $n = r(AB) +n(B)+ n(N(A) cap R(B))$ and so $n + r(AB) = r(A)+r(B) +n(A) - n(N(A) cap R(B)) ge
                  r(A)+r(B)$.






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                  Denote by $r(A)$ the rank of $A$ and by $n(A)$ the nullity of $A$, i.e. the dimension of the nullspace of $A$. The rank plus nullity theorem says that
                  $r(A)+n(A)=n$ and $r(B)+n(B)=n$ and so $2n= r(A)+r(B)+n(A)+n(B)$.



                  Let $N(A)$ be the nullspace of $A$ and $R(B)$ the range-space of $B$.
                  Then $r(AB)=n - n(B)- dim(N(A) cap R(B))$ (try proving this, hint: what is the nullspace of $AB$?). This gives $n = r(AB) +n(B)+ n(N(A) cap R(B))$ and so $n + r(AB) = r(A)+r(B) +n(A) - n(N(A) cap R(B)) ge
                  r(A)+r(B)$.







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                      Let $T:Vto W, S:Wto V$ be linear transformations which correspond to $A,B$. Equivalently we want prove that $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$ also similarly show that $$dim ker(T) + dim ker(S) gt dim ker(TS).$$ I know that $ker (S) subset ker (TS)$. Let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be a base for $ker (S)$; expand this base for $ker(ST)$ to $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r,a_r+1,a_r+2,ldots,a_s$ and then show that $S(a_r+1), S(a_r+2),ldots,S(a_s)$ are a set of independent elements s.t. $S(a_i)in ker (T) , forall i:r+1,ldots,s$ and indicate $ker (T) ge s-r,$ so $dim ker T+ dim ker Sge s-r+r=dim ker TS$. $$ 1.dim ker T+ dim ker Sge dim ker TS$$ $$2.dim ker T+r(T)=n$$ $$3.dim ker S T+r(S)=n$$ $$4.dim ker TS+r(TS)=n.$$ By 1, 2, 3, 4 easily conclude $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                        $endgroup$
                        – M.H
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:16










                      • $begingroup$
                        That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:54
















                      2












                      $begingroup$

                      Let $T:Vto W, S:Wto V$ be linear transformations which correspond to $A,B$. Equivalently we want prove that $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$ also similarly show that $$dim ker(T) + dim ker(S) gt dim ker(TS).$$ I know that $ker (S) subset ker (TS)$. Let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be a base for $ker (S)$; expand this base for $ker(ST)$ to $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r,a_r+1,a_r+2,ldots,a_s$ and then show that $S(a_r+1), S(a_r+2),ldots,S(a_s)$ are a set of independent elements s.t. $S(a_i)in ker (T) , forall i:r+1,ldots,s$ and indicate $ker (T) ge s-r,$ so $dim ker T+ dim ker Sge s-r+r=dim ker TS$. $$ 1.dim ker T+ dim ker Sge dim ker TS$$ $$2.dim ker T+r(T)=n$$ $$3.dim ker S T+r(S)=n$$ $$4.dim ker TS+r(TS)=n.$$ By 1, 2, 3, 4 easily conclude $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                        $endgroup$
                        – M.H
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:16










                      • $begingroup$
                        That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:54














                      2












                      2








                      2





                      $begingroup$

                      Let $T:Vto W, S:Wto V$ be linear transformations which correspond to $A,B$. Equivalently we want prove that $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$ also similarly show that $$dim ker(T) + dim ker(S) gt dim ker(TS).$$ I know that $ker (S) subset ker (TS)$. Let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be a base for $ker (S)$; expand this base for $ker(ST)$ to $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r,a_r+1,a_r+2,ldots,a_s$ and then show that $S(a_r+1), S(a_r+2),ldots,S(a_s)$ are a set of independent elements s.t. $S(a_i)in ker (T) , forall i:r+1,ldots,s$ and indicate $ker (T) ge s-r,$ so $dim ker T+ dim ker Sge s-r+r=dim ker TS$. $$ 1.dim ker T+ dim ker Sge dim ker TS$$ $$2.dim ker T+r(T)=n$$ $$3.dim ker S T+r(S)=n$$ $$4.dim ker TS+r(TS)=n.$$ By 1, 2, 3, 4 easily conclude $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$.






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                      Let $T:Vto W, S:Wto V$ be linear transformations which correspond to $A,B$. Equivalently we want prove that $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$ also similarly show that $$dim ker(T) + dim ker(S) gt dim ker(TS).$$ I know that $ker (S) subset ker (TS)$. Let $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be a base for $ker (S)$; expand this base for $ker(ST)$ to $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r,a_r+1,a_r+2,ldots,a_s$ and then show that $S(a_r+1), S(a_r+2),ldots,S(a_s)$ are a set of independent elements s.t. $S(a_i)in ker (T) , forall i:r+1,ldots,s$ and indicate $ker (T) ge s-r,$ so $dim ker T+ dim ker Sge s-r+r=dim ker TS$. $$ 1.dim ker T+ dim ker Sge dim ker TS$$ $$2.dim ker T+r(T)=n$$ $$3.dim ker S T+r(S)=n$$ $$4.dim ker TS+r(TS)=n.$$ By 1, 2, 3, 4 easily conclude $r(T)+r(S)leq r(TS)+n$.







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                      edited Apr 2 '13 at 15:55







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                      answered Feb 9 '13 at 19:56









                      M.HM.H

                      7,32211654




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                      • $begingroup$
                        I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                        $endgroup$
                        – M.H
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:16










                      • $begingroup$
                        That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:54

















                      • $begingroup$
                        I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:02










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                        $endgroup$
                        – M.H
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:16










                      • $begingroup$
                        That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Andreas Caranti
                        Feb 9 '13 at 20:54
















                      $begingroup$
                      I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Andreas Caranti
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:02




                      $begingroup$
                      I have reformatted your answer slightly, please check whether it is OK. Also, please allow me to be pedant. You shouldn't denote a base as a set, for instance because the order is important. Mind you, it is perfectly clear what you mean.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Andreas Caranti
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:02












                      $begingroup$
                      @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                      $endgroup$
                      – M.H
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:16




                      $begingroup$
                      @Andreas Caranti: W,V are finite vector space then exist $rin mathbb N$ s.t $a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r$ be base for $ker (S)$
                      $endgroup$
                      – M.H
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:16












                      $begingroup$
                      That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Andreas Caranti
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:54





                      $begingroup$
                      That's ok, my point was that denoting it as a set $ a_1,a_2,ldots,a_r $ is improper, for instance because if you change the order you get a different base, while in a set there's no order of elements.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Andreas Caranti
                      Feb 9 '13 at 20:54












                      0












                      $begingroup$

                      In response to Mr. Albanese's correct critique. I submit the following. The rank of A,B is in the set of integers [0,n]. Assume we know the relatively straigtfoward proofs that rank(AB)<= min(rank(A),rank(B)), -> rank(AB) = n if rank(A) and rank(B) have rank n. There are three rank possibilities. Let the rank of A = p, the rank of B = q with p,q integers. Then (p or q < n) or (p and q < n) or (p=q=n). The first two cases imply (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n) or (p+q < min(p,q) + n) as p+q < 2n and (rank(A) + rank(B) > rank(AB) + n) is a contradiction. This is a contrapositive proof of the strict inequality in the Sylvester theorem (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n). For the equality case p=q=n. Then (rank(A) + rank(B) = rank(AB)) + n) or n + n = n + n which is true because rank(A) and rank(B) have full rank, n, implies rank(AB)=n.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Albanese
                        Sep 7 '14 at 4:32











                      • $begingroup$
                        I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 12 '14 at 22:53










                      • $begingroup$
                        See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 15 '14 at 22:40















                      0












                      $begingroup$

                      In response to Mr. Albanese's correct critique. I submit the following. The rank of A,B is in the set of integers [0,n]. Assume we know the relatively straigtfoward proofs that rank(AB)<= min(rank(A),rank(B)), -> rank(AB) = n if rank(A) and rank(B) have rank n. There are three rank possibilities. Let the rank of A = p, the rank of B = q with p,q integers. Then (p or q < n) or (p and q < n) or (p=q=n). The first two cases imply (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n) or (p+q < min(p,q) + n) as p+q < 2n and (rank(A) + rank(B) > rank(AB) + n) is a contradiction. This is a contrapositive proof of the strict inequality in the Sylvester theorem (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n). For the equality case p=q=n. Then (rank(A) + rank(B) = rank(AB)) + n) or n + n = n + n which is true because rank(A) and rank(B) have full rank, n, implies rank(AB)=n.






                      share|cite|improve this answer











                      $endgroup$












                      • $begingroup$
                        This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Albanese
                        Sep 7 '14 at 4:32











                      • $begingroup$
                        I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 12 '14 at 22:53










                      • $begingroup$
                        See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 15 '14 at 22:40













                      0












                      0








                      0





                      $begingroup$

                      In response to Mr. Albanese's correct critique. I submit the following. The rank of A,B is in the set of integers [0,n]. Assume we know the relatively straigtfoward proofs that rank(AB)<= min(rank(A),rank(B)), -> rank(AB) = n if rank(A) and rank(B) have rank n. There are three rank possibilities. Let the rank of A = p, the rank of B = q with p,q integers. Then (p or q < n) or (p and q < n) or (p=q=n). The first two cases imply (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n) or (p+q < min(p,q) + n) as p+q < 2n and (rank(A) + rank(B) > rank(AB) + n) is a contradiction. This is a contrapositive proof of the strict inequality in the Sylvester theorem (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n). For the equality case p=q=n. Then (rank(A) + rank(B) = rank(AB)) + n) or n + n = n + n which is true because rank(A) and rank(B) have full rank, n, implies rank(AB)=n.






                      share|cite|improve this answer











                      $endgroup$



                      In response to Mr. Albanese's correct critique. I submit the following. The rank of A,B is in the set of integers [0,n]. Assume we know the relatively straigtfoward proofs that rank(AB)<= min(rank(A),rank(B)), -> rank(AB) = n if rank(A) and rank(B) have rank n. There are three rank possibilities. Let the rank of A = p, the rank of B = q with p,q integers. Then (p or q < n) or (p and q < n) or (p=q=n). The first two cases imply (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n) or (p+q < min(p,q) + n) as p+q < 2n and (rank(A) + rank(B) > rank(AB) + n) is a contradiction. This is a contrapositive proof of the strict inequality in the Sylvester theorem (rank(A) + rank(B) < rank(AB) + n). For the equality case p=q=n. Then (rank(A) + rank(B) = rank(AB)) + n) or n + n = n + n which is true because rank(A) and rank(B) have full rank, n, implies rank(AB)=n.







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                      answered Sep 7 '14 at 4:10









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                      • $begingroup$
                        This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Albanese
                        Sep 7 '14 at 4:32











                      • $begingroup$
                        I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 12 '14 at 22:53










                      • $begingroup$
                        See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 15 '14 at 22:40
















                      • $begingroup$
                        This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Albanese
                        Sep 7 '14 at 4:32











                      • $begingroup$
                        I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 12 '14 at 22:53










                      • $begingroup$
                        See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                        $endgroup$
                        – John Knox
                        Sep 15 '14 at 22:40















                      $begingroup$
                      This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Michael Albanese
                      Sep 7 '14 at 4:32





                      $begingroup$
                      This assumes that either $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B leq operatornamerank AB + n$ or $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B > operatornamerank AB + n$. It could be the case that there is no relationship between $operatornamerank A + operatornamerank B$ and $operatornamerank AB + n$.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Michael Albanese
                      Sep 7 '14 at 4:32













                      $begingroup$
                      I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                      $endgroup$
                      – John Knox
                      Sep 12 '14 at 22:53




                      $begingroup$
                      I submit the following. The maximum rank of A,B is an integer n.
                      $endgroup$
                      – John Knox
                      Sep 12 '14 at 22:53












                      $begingroup$
                      See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                      $endgroup$
                      – John Knox
                      Sep 15 '14 at 22:40




                      $begingroup$
                      See above per @MichaelAlbanese
                      $endgroup$
                      – John Knox
                      Sep 15 '14 at 22:40

















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Indicador: Tasa bruta de mortalidad (por 1000 habitantes).Population.Falleció el patriarca de la Iglesia Ortodoxa serbia.Atacan en Kosovo autobuses con peregrinos tras la investidura del patriarca serbio IrinejSerbian in Hungary.Tasas de cambio."Kosovo es de todos sus ciudadanos".Report for Serbia.Country groups by income.GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT (GDP) OF THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIA 1997–2007.Economic Trends in the Republic of Serbia 2006.National Accounts Statitics.Саопштења за јавност.GDP per inhabitant varied by one to six across the EU27 Member States.Un pacto de estabilidad para Serbia.Unemployment rate rises in Serbia.Serbia, Belarus agree free trade to woo investors.Serbia, Turkey call investors to Serbia.Success Stories.U.S. Private Investment in Serbia and Montenegro.Positive trend.Banks in Serbia.La Cámara de Comercio acompaña a empresas madrileñas a Serbia y Croacia.Serbia Industries.Energy and mining.Agriculture.Late crops, fruit and grapes output, 2008.Rebranding Serbia: A Hobby Shortly to Become a Full-Time Job.Final data on livestock statistics, 2008.Serbian cell-phone users.U Srbiji sve više računara.Телекомуникације.U Srbiji 27 odsto gradjana koristi Internet.Serbia and Montenegro.Тренд гледаности програма РТС-а у 2008. и 2009.години.Serbian railways.General Terms.El mercado del transporte aéreo en Serbia.Statistics.Vehículos de motor registrados.Planes ambiciosos para el transporte fluvial.Turismo.Turistički promet u Republici Srbiji u periodu januar-novembar 2007. godine.Your Guide to Culture.Novi Sad - city of culture.Nis - european crossroads.Serbia. Properties inscribed on the World Heritage List .Stari Ras and Sopoćani.Studenica Monastery.Medieval Monuments in Kosovo.Gamzigrad-Romuliana, Palace of Galerius.Skiing and snowboarding in Kopaonik.Tara.New7Wonders of Nature Finalists.Pilgrimage of Saint Sava.Exit Festival: Best european festival.Banje u Srbiji.«The Encyclopedia of world history»Culture.Centenario del arte serbio.«Djordje Andrejevic Kun: el único pintor de los brigadistas yugoslavos de la guerra civil española»About the museum.The collections.Miroslav Gospel – Manuscript from 1180.Historicity in the Serbo-Croatian Heroic Epic.Culture and Sport.Conversación con el rector del Seminario San Sava.'Reina Margot' funde drama, historia y gesto con música de Goran Bregovic.Serbia gana Eurovisión y España decepciona de nuevo con un vigésimo puesto.Home.Story.Emir Kusturica.Tercer oro para Paskaljevic.Nikola Tesla Year.Home.Tesla, un genio tomado por loco.Aniversario de la muerte de Nikola Tesla.El Museo Nikola Tesla en Belgrado.El inventor del mundo actual.República de Serbia.University of Belgrade official statistics.University of Novi Sad.University of Kragujevac.University of Nis.Comida. Cocina serbia.Cooking.Montenegro se convertirá en el miembro 204 del movimiento olímpico.España, campeona de Europa de baloncesto.El Partizan de Belgrado se corona campeón por octava vez consecutiva.Serbia se clasifica para el Mundial de 2010 de Sudáfrica.Serbia Name Squad For Northern Ireland And South Korea Tests.Fútbol.- El Partizán de Belgrado se proclama campeón de la Liga serbia.Clasificacion final Mundial de balonmano Croacia 2009.Serbia vence a España y se consagra campeón mundial de waterpolo.Novak Djokovic no convence pero gana en Australia.Gana Ana Ivanovic el Roland Garros.Serena Williams gana el US Open por tercera vez.Biography.Bradt Travel Guide SerbiaThe Encyclopedia of World War IGobierno de SerbiaPortal del Gobierno de SerbiaPresidencia de SerbiaAsamblea Nacional SerbiaMinisterio de Asuntos exteriores de SerbiaBanco Nacional de SerbiaAgencia Serbia para la Promoción de la Inversión y la ExportaciónOficina de Estadísticas de SerbiaCIA. 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